Golden Syrup/Belgian Candi Syrup

dad_of_jon · Mar 27, 2017

this is a good link....

https://byo.com/bock/item/1441-sweetness-brewing-sugars-how-to-use-them

there is an error on the article because on my tin of Tate & Lyle's golden syrup it says partially inverted and the article says it's fully inverted.

as for 'candi sugar' I suppose it could either be inverted or not depending on how its made. inverted sugar is the breaking down of a di-sacharides into two mono-sacharides and yeast prefer this.

http://brulosophy.com/2016/03/14/belgian-candi-syrup-homemade-vs-commercial-exbeeriment-results/

Gerryjo · Mar 27, 2017

Would it be of any benefit to mix some GS with some dark treacle?

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Godsdog · Mar 27, 2017

I did a brew with a kilo of it last year and made it perfectly,did it add anything to the brew?yep.............jacksh1t:nah:

MyQul · Mar 27, 2017

Gerryjo said:
Would it be of any benefit to mix some GS with some dark treacle?

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I saw something (I think it was on the Barkley Perkins blog) about mixing GS with different amount of treacle to make the differerent invert numbers (1 thorough 4 iirc)

Gerryjo · Mar 27, 2017

Great minds think alike Ã°Å¸Ëâ¹

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dad_of_jon · Mar 27, 2017

Gerryjo said:
Would it be of any benefit to mix some GS with some dark treacle?

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yup - thats sensible. I did put a full can of dark treacle in one of my beers and that took a while before it was drinkable :whistle:

Gerryjo · Mar 27, 2017

dad_of_jon said:
yup - thats sensible. I did put a full can of dark treacle in one of my beers and that took a while before it was drinkable :whistle:

I done 1kg in a ruination clone and took a while but unfortunately there is none left[emoji95]

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chub1 · Mar 27, 2017

Gerryjo said:
Would it be of any benefit to mix some GS with some dark treacle?

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Mixing Golden syrup and Black treacle or mollasses and boiling with water makes various invert sugars,
here-
Making Brewers Invert | half a cat

MyQul · Mar 30, 2017

chub1 said:
Mixing Golden syrup and Black treacle or mollasses and boiling with water makes various invert sugars,
here-
Making Brewers Invert | half a cat

Thanks chub, that's the site I meant where I read about them mixing GS and treacle to make different invert sugar numbers. :thumb:

dps51 · Mar 30, 2017

sugar &water makes Syrup
then you heat it till it turn brown till you get it as dark as you need it
then it will set like toffe on a apple if heated to much but still can be used in your brew
or why not something like this
https://www.nextdaycoffee.co.uk/tea...urce=Froogle&gclid=CKOUpb-F_9ICFUK3GwodCKwBSQ

or these
https://www.nextdaycoffee.co.uk/syrups/flavouring-syrups/flavouring-syrups-fruit

Ale · Mar 30, 2017

And there was me thinking crack was made from cocaine. Puts a different perspective on it when people say they have a sugar addiction.

dps51 · Mar 30, 2017

don't think cocaine got much sugar in it so not much good to use in brewing a beer

MyQul · Mar 30, 2017

I did look for cocaine in the drop down menu of the adjuncts on brew mate but I couldn't find it. Anyone know if it has a potential extract so I can add it manually?

Global33 · Apr 2, 2017

MyQul said:
I did look for cocaine in the drop down menu of the adjuncts on brew mate but I couldn't find it. Anyone know if it has a potential extract so I can add it manually?

I'm not sure if it's fermentable, but is sold as "energizing"

BOLIVIAN BREWERY DEVELOPS COCA BEER

Global33 · Apr 2, 2017

Anyways...I also fancy a go at a Brewferm kit. When I'm using the calculators is Golden Syrup the same as Candy Sugar, as in gram for gram how much alcohol it produces?

Slid · Apr 2, 2017

Global33 said:
Anyways...I also fancy a go at a Brewferm kit. When I'm using the calculators is Golden Syrup the same as Candy Sugar, as in gram for gram how much alcohol it produces?

100g sugar in 1L water ~ 5% ABV at full conversion.

Good rule of thumb and easy to remember.

So, adding 500g to a 25L brew adds ~ 1% on the ABV.

Global33 · Apr 2, 2017

Slid said:
100g sugar in 1L water ~ 5% ABV at full conversion.

Good rule of thumb and easy to remember.

So, adding 500g to a 25L brew adds ~ 1% on the ABV.

Thanks. Is it the same for Golden Syrup?

MyQul · Apr 3, 2017

Global33 said:
Thanks. Is it the same for Golden Syrup?

Using brewmate to work it out. As similarly to what Slid says, 500g of table sugar in a 23L brew adds 1.06%ABV (based on sugar having potential extract of 1.046). Golden Syrup will add 0.49%ABV per 23L brew (based on GS having potential extract of 1.038)

Global33 · Apr 3, 2017

MyQul said:
Using brewmate to work it out. As similarly to what Slid says, 500g of table sugar in a 23L brew adds 1.06%ABV (based on sugar having potential extract of 1.046). Golden Syrup will add 0.49%ABV per 23L brew (based on GS having potential extract of 1.038)

Thanks. I did look on the calculator at the top of the page, but must have missed it. :doh:

MyQul · Apr 3, 2017

Global33 said:
Thanks. I did look on the calculator at the top of the page, but must have missed it.

It probably doesnt have it in theere. I added GS manually to brewmate. Dunno about our brewing software as I like and use brewmate but if theere's a grain or adjunct that isnt in there, you need to search the interwebs for the potential extract for that grain/adjunct to enter into the brewing software. You also need to look for the colour figure (SRM/EBC/and the other one which I forget now) to enter so your software calculates the correct colour. Beersmith (you dont need the software the list is on the web) has a big list of potential extract for things

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