A few members have asked about making a red wine using supermarket juice, the answer is usually you cannot as you need grape skins, looks like you have found a way of getting close. :thumb:
Supermarket Juice Wine How To guide and Recipes.
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Gorty
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If you're having a problem with slow fermentation, some fruit juices are slower than others notable blueberry, then it could be worth trying 'Tronzymol' a very good nutrient can help rejuvenate stuck ferments and if you really want to go down the 'Semtex' route add some Young's 'Restart' yeast as well.
So just to update. I stabilised the wine in the FV (SG 1001). A day later the top half of the DJ was practically clear (see pic). It's interesting that the yeast cause the cloudiness by stirring up everything. I racked it off to a new DJ, degassed and Kwick Cleared it. It's now sitting in the shed where hopefully it will clear. Apparently you can leave the FV go for weeks and weeks without worrying about the lees? So will leave the other three DJs in for as long as it takes to get them to 995.
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Was asking for other members but also just incase there were any benefits of using fruit/other ingredients
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So just to update. I stabilised the wine in the FV (SG 1001). A day later the top half of the DJ was practically clear (see pic). It's interesting that the yeast cause the cloudiness by stirring up everything. I racked it off to a new DJ, degassed and Kwick Cleared it. It's now sitting in the shed where hopefully it will clear. Apparently you can leave the FV go for weeks and weeks without worrying about the lees? So will leave the other three DJs in for as long as it takes to get them to 995.
That's looking nice :mrgreen:
So 52 hours later. Not actually sure how clear it will go. Might try another clear tomorrow.
I degassed it using this
Before adding the Kwick clear.
I wasn't overly confident about whether I was in fact aerating it
Will pour a glass shortly and see what it is like !
Edit - this is a glass (room temp - not condensation) taste is actually superb (thanks Chippy!)
Decided to keep the sample for research purposes and replace it with water from the kettle to keep the DJ topped up.
Rereading the Kwick Clear packet it says give it 24-72 hours. So will look again in 24 hours and decide whether to try it again.
Since I used the wine thief to get the sample I was pulling the wine through the lees to get it into the sample.
I degassed it using this
Before adding the Kwick clear.
I wasn't overly confident about whether I was in fact aerating it
Will pour a glass shortly and see what it is like !
Edit - this is a glass (room temp - not condensation) taste is actually superb (thanks Chippy!)
Decided to keep the sample for research purposes and replace it with water from the kettle to keep the DJ topped up.
Rereading the Kwick Clear packet it says give it 24-72 hours. So will look again in 24 hours and decide whether to try it again.
Since I used the wine thief to get the sample I was pulling the wine through the lees to get it into the sample.
OK so it didn't clear. Have added in same amounts again, wasn't sure whether to rack it first so being under a slight time constraint today I didn't.
Edit: Have since racked it, lost about 2/3L of liquid in the process and learned a bit about what to do next time. So I topped up with a new bottle of rosé which tasted awful in comparison. Won't be racking again - straight to bag in a week next no matter how cloudy it is !
Edit: Have since racked it, lost about 2/3L of liquid in the process and learned a bit about what to do next time. So I topped up with a new bottle of rosé which tasted awful in comparison. Won't be racking again - straight to bag in a week next no matter how cloudy it is !
aneray
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Its been a long, long time since I last posted, so hello to all.
Grape juice. Is anybody having a problem sourcing it. I live down in Cornwall and have never had a problem in 20 odd years buying it. Can't find it anywhere now apart from Lidl that sells the red. Tried all the usual top six supermarkets without success. Is this just down here where I live or a countrywide problem.
Cheers.
Grape juice. Is anybody having a problem sourcing it. I live down in Cornwall and have never had a problem in 20 odd years buying it. Can't find it anywhere now apart from Lidl that sells the red. Tried all the usual top six supermarkets without success. Is this just down here where I live or a countrywide problem.
Cheers.
Welcome back aneray.
We have struggled getting white grape juice here for a long time and many members have reported the same, red grape juice seems plentiful here.
ASDA RGJ - https://groceries.asda.com/product/grapes-berries/asda-red-grape-juice/910000267188
Tesco RGJ - http://www.tesco.com/groceries/product/details/?id=265124880
Iceland RGJ - http://groceries.iceland.co.uk/don-...d-grape-juice-not-from-concentrate-1l/p/58783
We have struggled getting white grape juice here for a long time and many members have reported the same, red grape juice seems plentiful here.
ASDA RGJ - https://groceries.asda.com/product/grapes-berries/asda-red-grape-juice/910000267188
Tesco RGJ - http://www.tesco.com/groceries/product/details/?id=265124880
Iceland RGJ - http://groceries.iceland.co.uk/don-...d-grape-juice-not-from-concentrate-1l/p/58783
All done. Despite the dodgy photo it is absolutely crystal clear. Would not see any benefit to filtering it surely.
Tastes lovely - exactly like a nice Rosé.
However stopping it at 1.000 tells after the first glass, would prefer it drier.
Lesson learned - super yeast compound from now on !
Tastes lovely - exactly like a nice Rosé.
However stopping it at 1.000 tells after the first glass, would prefer it drier.
Lesson learned - super yeast compound from now on !
Glad it turned out well, Youngs Super Wine Yeast Compound is the only yeast i have ever used (apart from what comes with kits) and i have never had one stop short or fail.
I have resigned myself to drinking the first 33L WOWs @ SG 1.000 / 11%. They are also refusing to clear with just 1 generous Kwick Clear application.
I am using Lidl Vitafit RGJ so I suspect this is not as easy to clear as the Asda stuff. I will be switching to Don Simon RGJ which is same as the Asda one.
Have high hopes for the one still fermenting but it will take weeks/ months to get to .995. I might even rack it off the lees and continue letting it ferment.
Last night I put on 23L elderberry wine (Roddy's brewday recipe but with fresh berries) with a tonne of super compound and nutrient in it ;-)
I am using Lidl Vitafit RGJ so I suspect this is not as easy to clear as the Asda stuff. I will be switching to Don Simon RGJ which is same as the Asda one.
Have high hopes for the one still fermenting but it will take weeks/ months to get to .995. I might even rack it off the lees and continue letting it ferment.
Last night I put on 23L elderberry wine (Roddy's brewday recipe but with fresh berries) with a tonne of super compound and nutrient in it ;-)
Is it this one?
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