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Im happy enough to buy things from ebay but i've never tried selling anything before, im looking for a few hints and tips from any ebayers on here. Its a reasonably expensive item i'll be selling, a tacx fortius virtual reality system (that probably only means something to any cyclists on here).

Anyway is there any pitfalls i need to watch out for, for instance should i insist of insurance for postage to cover my own ass, and what sorts of fees do ebay/paypal charge anyway??

Ta in advance, Delboy.
 
I'm only a buyer 2 Del but i'm sure we have a few sellers, if it were me i'd cover myself and add the insurance as, well a bit of insurance for your self ;) by the way i have no idea what the item is but i bet Wez does
 
I have seen them reviewed :cool: Del what model is it and how much you looking for? I wouldn't use one but I do know a few who would use it for spinning.
 
Del, I've sold on eBay for many years now and not really had any problems, but I have heard some horror stories from friends

Basically don't have anything to do with Escrow, it can be really dodgy, if you don't know, it's where when you've sold an expensive item, it's a bit like a middle man, the item goes to the middle man and then so does the buyers payment, when they have both and the funds are cleared the item is released to the buyer and the seller is paid. Paypal can remove funds even after clearing if there is a sniff of fraud, so an Escrow can stop this happening. Unfortunately for my mate Mickey, he sold a laptop abroad, decided to use an Escrow company as he wasn't quite sure whether payment would clear even after he had recieved it, the buyer supposedly sent payment to a Escrow, Mickey sent the (then) very expensive laptop to the same Escrow and then never recieved payment. The reason? the Escrow company was fake set up by the buyer himself. oh dear. :(

oh, don't sell to anyone in Nigeria or Russia, major fraudsters live there

if you have Paypal account, I wouldn't use it for payment, it'll strip major spondooleys off your selling price, if someone really wants your item, they'll be happy to wait for their cheque to clear, before you ship the item, or come and pick it up and pay cash.

Paypal is actually the Devil dressed as Dick Turpin with a server. It's an eBay company so in reality they are proper skimming the gravy twice, once for selling fees then once again for you to accept Paypal.

Also if the payment from your buyer comes from a their Paypal account balance (ie they've been selling stuff) and not from their debit/credit card or bank account, there isn't even a proper transaction as it's all 'in house', they aren't actualy doing anything to charge a fee for.

If you do decide to use Paypal and are prepared to accept their charges, add 'immediate payment required' this stops some **** clicking Buy it now when they're ******, ending your auction, then waking up in the morning and thinking '****, what have I bought? I'll just not pay for it', you then have to set the auction away again, more hassle, with immeadiate the auction only ends if they click BIN and then pay for it within a short allotted time.

if you have a idea what you want for the item and think someone will go for it, add a Buy-it-Now, it gets the item sold quick and for an acceptable price, I think it's only a few pence to add it to your selling page.

If you think it's a specialist bit of kit and there may be only a few folk wanting it, don't set your start price too low or someone will be walking away with your nice kit or 99p, set reserve if you think this may happen.

make sure you put the item in the most appropriate category,some folk just browse categories rather than doing a search for a particular thing.

errr rant over :oops: hope it sells well Del
 
Garth said:
Del, I've sold on eBay for many years now and not really had any problems, but I have heard some horror stories from friends

Basically don't have anything to do with Escrow, it can be really dodgy, if you don't know, it's where when you've sold an expensive item, it's a bit like a middle man, the item goes to the middle man and then so does the buyers payment, when they have both and the funds are cleared the item is released to the buyer and the seller is paid. Paypal can remove funds even after clearing if there is a sniff of fraud, so an Escrow can stop this happening. Unfortunately for my mate Mickey, he sold a laptop abroad, decided to use an Escrow company as he wasn't quite sure whether payment would clear even after he had recieved it, the buyer supposedly sent payment to a Escrow, Mickey sent the (then) very expensive laptop to the same Escrow and then never recieved payment. The reason? the Escrow company was fake set up by the buyer himself. oh dear. :(

oh, don't sell to anyone in Nigeria or Russia, major fraudsters live there

if you have Paypal account, I wouldn't use it for payment, it'll strip major spondooleys off your selling price, if someone really wants your item, they'll be happy to wait for their cheque to clear, before you ship the item, or come and pick it up and pay cash.

Paypal is actually the Devil dressed as Dick Turpin with a server. It's an eBay company so in reality they are proper skimming the gravy twice, once for selling fees then once again for you to accept Paypal.

Also if the payment from your buyer comes from a their Paypal account balance (ie they've been selling stuff) and not from their debit/credit card or bank account, there isn't even a proper transaction as it's all 'in house', they aren't actualy doing anything to charge a fee for.

If you do decide to use Paypal and are prepared to accept their charges, add 'immediate payment required' this stops some **** clicking Buy it now when they're ******, ending your auction, then waking up in the morning and thinking '****, what have I bought? I'll just not pay for it', you then have to set the auction away again, more hassle, with immeadiate the auction only ends if they click BIN and then pay for it within a short allotted time.

if you have a idea what you want for the item and think someone will go for it, add a Buy-it-Now, it gets the item sold quick and for an acceptable price, I think it's only a few pence to add it to your selling page.

If you think it's a specialist bit of kit and there may be only a few folk wanting it, don't set your start price too low or someone will be walking away with your nice kit or 99p, set reserve if you think this may happen.

make sure you put the item in the most appropriate category,some folk just browse categories rather than doing a search for a particular thing.

errr rant over :oops: hope it sells well Del

Thanks garth for taking the time to post that, a lot of great info and food for thought. Ideally i would want someone to pick it up and pay on the day with cash but this being Northern Ireland im unlikely to get a local buyer and i expect it'll be heading across the water.

I'll almost certainly be putting a buy it now price on it and maybe a reserve.
 
Wez said:
I have seen them reviewed :cool: Del what model is it and how much you looking for? I wouldn't use one but I do know a few who would use it for spinning.

Its an expensive peice of kit wez RRP is £749.99 :shock: , if you shop around you can get them for £600 though.

Im thinking a reserve of £300 and a buy it now price of £400 which i don't think is wiping anybodys eye (last one on ebay sold for over £500 and one on at the mo is sitting at 410 with 2 days to go).
 
Looking at those figures DB I would have the confidence not to set a 'buy it now'....but.....a word of warning.

If your watching items where the bidding history is hidden...steer well clear...there's every possibility that the seller is getting someone to inflate the price by bidding against genuine bidders. Why E-bay allow the hidden bidding is beyond me :evil:

If you know what you want for your item and do a buy it now remember to check out what charges will be applied and add them inot you BIN price.

If you accept payment by Pay Pal, withdraw your funds to your bank ASAP. In the past people have paid, item has been shipped by seller and then the payment has been reclaimed by PP as the card used had been stolen :shock: ...leaving you with no item and no money :(

One other thing, people assume that because you have PayPal, you accept credit card payments, which isn't the case. CC payment s attract higher charges for you so be aware of this

Above all, and this might sound silly, don't worry about selling on E-bay too much. I've sold and bought 200+ items and never had any problems :thumb:
 
New rule changes mean that you HAVE to accept PayPal (in the UK at least), which means that should someone decide that he is going to be an ****, he can pay for it get it, file a Item not received report get his money back from Paypal, and you are out of pocket! The only Proof that Paypal will accept is Online tracking . . . This means someone can Win the item pay with Paypal, come and collect, and then report it as Item not received . . . and you have no proof.

this is from a photography site I visit

1.) All bidders ID's are to be hidden. This is stage 2 of this particular scheme. Stage 1 introduced this for bids over £100, it is now going to apply to all auctions, so dodgy sellers are totally free to shill bid their own auctions.

2) If you have less than 100 feedback, and a buyer pays with PP, Paypal may hold onto you payment until either the buyer leaves FB or 21 days pass without a complaint being raised.

3) Sellers are now forced to offer PayPal on all auctions, including those that are for pick up only. This despite the fact that PP will automatically refund a buyer who claims item not received because the seller needs to prove the buyer has got his item by providing on line tracking, which of cause he can't do because the buyer took it away in the back of his car.

When this concern was raised with the moron who is head of trust and safety he tried to reassure us that this type of scam was so rare we need not worry about it. Of cause its rare because at the moment we are not stupid enough to take PP when an item is collected.

He also rambles on about we must offer protection to all buyers for all purchases, ignoring the fact that a buyer does not need protection from non-delivery on a collected item.
 
Another quick question for the ebay gurus out there, i have 28 people watching my item, is that a low, average or high level of interest in an item :hmm:
 
Well the item sold for 450 (or at least i thought it did), winner didn't pay up immediately, sent me a message that they were waiting for a cheque to clear and that they would pay on the monday (today).
This morning i got a message from him saying that a family member was killed in a car accident and that under the circumstances they wouldn't be going ahead with the purchase.

What do you reckon, does it sound genuine or is it just somebody that changed their mind and wants to avoid any bad feedback?

More importantly though what do i need to do on ebay before i can offer a 2nd chance to the guy just below him in the bidding.

Also do i cite him for non payment (well this cause a feedback war) should i say it was a mutual agreement to not continue (will this end up costing me the listing fees etc?)

Many thanks in advance, DB :thumb:
 
Utter tosh db, he's taking the Michael :evil:
You can't have feedback wars nowadays, sellers can't leave negative feedback....e-bay do that once you've won the complaint :thumb:
I'd send a second chance offer to the runner up (if it was at a price you're happy with)
Then I'd file a non paying complaint.
 
Sorry to hear that DB, thats fishier than Grimsby

Good advice from V1
 
Vossy1 said:
Utter tosh db, he's taking the Michael :evil:
You can't have feedback wars nowadays, sellers can't leave negative feedback....e-bay do that once you've won the complaint :thumb:
I'd send a second chance offer to the runner up (if it was at a price you're happy with)
Then I'd file a non paying complaint.

I went ahead and offered it to the guy below in the bidding, the cheeky blighter wants to knock £40 off his orginal bid, i suppose i can't blame him for trying.
I think i'll try the guy below and if he doesn't go for it, relist as soon as ebay allows with a buy it now price to stop this sodding about marlarkey.
 
That's exactly the reason i don't sell on ebay DB. I do buy stuff though. I got bored with the stupid lies used as excuses not to buy. :evil:
 

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