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Old 07-11-2015, 06:23 PM   #31
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That's what I planned to mash at before the extra crystal.
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Old 07-11-2015, 06:25 PM   #32
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Well maybe 65 but I wouldn't go any lower. Can you not buy the grains separately?
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Yes, and thats what I normally do but they didnt have any spare bags so had to use an empty 25kg grain bag. They're not really geared up for selling to HBers although they do. They're core business is hiring their equipment and brewing onsite
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I tasted mine yesterday when i was checking the gravity. It has a wonderful coffee flavor at the back end imparted by the dark malts.
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Not sure sorry. Possibly the dark grains, which will have affected the PH. I have usually steeped dark grains separately, but last time I added them half way through the mash, and got very high efficiency.
I am lost being a thicky here but do you steep then over night and then just add liquid to wart or do you just add chocolate to he tun halfway through the mash time
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Rather than carry on disrupting the Newcastle Brown thread, I'll stick my attempt at a recipe for Dark Island in this new thread. the brewery website tells us the ingredients:

A classic Scottish dark ale with chocolate and roasted malt flavours. Brewed with Pale Ale, Crystal, Chocolate and Wheat malts and hopped with First Gold and Goldings hops. So...

Batch Size (L): 23.0
Original Gravity (OG): 1.045
Final Gravity (FG): 1.011
Alcohol by Volume (ABV): 4.42 %
Colour (SRM): 25.9 (EBC): 51.0
Bitterness (IBU): 31.7 (Average)
Brewhouse Efficiency (%): 75
Boil Time (Minutes): 60

3.900 kg Pale Malt (85.25%)
0.275 kg Chocolate (6.01%)
0.200 kg Crystal Medium 145 EBC (4.37%)
0.200 kg Wheat Malt (4.37%)

40.0 g East Kent Golding Leaf (5.7% Alpha) @ 60 Minutes
30.0 g First Gold Leaf (8.3% Alpha) @ 5 Minutes

(I've used First Gold as the flavour hops purely out of my love for them, it may well be the other way round. And the real thing may well use less hops than this per litre)

The pint I had was more chocolate than crystal. I've no idea which crystal it uses, so I've gone for the standard medium. But it may be dark crystal. The amount of chocolate and crystal, and the type of crystal, are the main unknown factors.

Mash at 67°C for 60 Minutes.
Ferment at 18-20°C with Safale US-05 or Nottingham. The pint I had seemed very neutral on the yeast front.
Hi Clibit sorry for my ignorance as i am totally new to home brewing, but i do so like Orkney Dark Island. I have looked on various sites for Crystal Medium 145EBC but the nearest i have found is a 130EBC would this make any difference
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Hi Clibit sorry for my ignorance as i am totally new to home brewing, but i do so like Orkney Dark Island. I have looked on various sites for Crystal Medium 145EBC but the nearest i have found is a 130EBC would this make any difference
Don't think you'll get an answer from Clibit cos he doesn't post on this forum anymore.
The homebrew company do Crystal 145 EBC. I'm no expert but I would have thought the difference between 145 and 130 EBC crystal in this recipe would be pretty minimal. And hey, it would just be your interpretation and may even be better.
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