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Old 13-10-2016, 12:36 AM   #11
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3 things you could do in the future
1 is put a muslin cloth/hop bag over the syphon attached with elastic band
2 is to put the Elderberries etc directly in a muslin/straining/hop bag and place in fermenter
And 3 as you already did by sieving it but you'd be better using a fine straining bag to better stop the sediment etc


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Old 13-10-2016, 06:14 AM   #12
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3 things you could do in the future
1 is put a muslin cloth/hop bag over the syphon attached with elastic band
2 is to put the Elderberries etc directly in a muslin/straining/hop bag and place in fermenter
And 3 as you already did by sieving it but you'd be better using a fine straining bag to better stop the sediment etc
Thanks Mikey
Hopefully much of the fine stuff will now settle out over the next 12 days. I also intend to filter this batch after fining stage.

If I lose half a bottle so be it, I will just have to treat the other half as an early 'sample'.


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Old 14-10-2016, 10:52 AM   #13
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DAY 10

No movement at all in airlock Mmmmm? -?
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Old 15-10-2016, 01:03 AM   #14
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Perfectly normal usually primary fermentation will be done in <5days then the rest of the time the kit calls for is the secondary fermentation where the yeast clean up the mess they made during primary not many bubbles or sg change will be seen during this time
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Day 20 -

All quiet at airlock and has been for ages.
Transferred from 23l glass DJ to large FV, nice layer of sludge left in bottom.
Added Potassium metabisulphate and Kieselsol.
Kit recommends a good stir with a spoon 4 times a day for the next 2 days.
Started with the spoon then resorted to the magic wand and got a good head up without creating a vortex.

Not sure it will need the wand / drill treatment 8 times over next 2 days but will do it anyway.

Question - is it possible to OVER De-Gas?

SG 0.992 -
Coming up noticeably short of the 23 l in the bucket now but kit specifically says DO NOT top up with water so I will not.

Tasting obviously accounts for some of the 'evaporation'. Really tastes good already so I am very hopeful regarding how this will be after a few months in the bottle.
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Old 24-10-2016, 01:05 PM   #16
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Edit - I have a calif conn - malbec about 1 week behind yours. Really hopeful about it.

I diluted a cellar 7 kit fearing a gap at top of the demijohn and it had to go in the sink after. Lesson learned : don't add water to top up a kit.

Have same query about the degassing. Doubt it is needed but no harm just keep everything sanitised.
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Old 24-10-2016, 01:26 PM   #17
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Edit - I have a calif conn - malbec about 1 week behind yours. Really hopeful about it.

I diluted a cellar 7 kit fearing a gap at top of the demijohn and it had to go in the sink after. Lesson learned : don't add water to top up a kit.

Have same query about the degassing. Doubt it is needed but no harm just keep everything sanitised.
Wow! Down the sink? How much water did you put in and what did it do to it?
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Old 24-10-2016, 01:30 PM   #18
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Just added 1.5 L or so to get to the neck of the 23l DJ.

It killed the taste of the wine dead. As a total noob I was more worried about the air gap than the damage it might do to the flavour.
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Just added 1.5 L or so to get to the neck of the 23l DJ.

It killed the taste of the wine dead. As a total noob I was more worried about the air gap than the damage it might do to the flavour.
I suppose when active and blipping in the FV the gap is all co2 protecting it. This is the gap I had at the top of the carboy once the wine was put into there from the FV at day 8.
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Yep - that's the one !


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