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Old 24-10-2016, 06:33 PM   #21
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Don't be worried about the gap you really only need to worry about that when bulk aging for months

As for degassing they tell you to do it with a spoon several times a day for 4 days etc as most people don't own a drill degassing tool.

With the drill tool you dont have to degas for days just degas once and when your happy that it's thoroughly degassed then stop.

Vacuum degassing is far quicker and far better.
As you already own a glass carboy I will highly recommended purchasing either a vacuvin wine saver tool to vacuum degas your wine.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00...iML&ref=plSrch

Or even better a brake bleeding tool

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00...vWL&ref=plSrch

Something to look into id recommend watching some youtube videos if your interested
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Day 22

Chitosan added. Potassium Sorbate left out as suggested

Question time again guys -

Will now leave this for the suggested 6 days to clear before filtering / bottling etc
Reading ahead it states to add 1/4 tsp potassium metabisulphate before bottling and after filtering if I want to keep it in bottles longer than 6 months. They do not supply this so -

Knowing my Campdens are Sodium metabisulphate and after some googling I remain puzzled.

I appreciate that the NA or K Suplhate will do the same job but there appear to be so many diffeent opinions on how much of each is equivalent if that makes sense? My Campdens state 1 per gallon so are 5 of these really equivalent to 1/4 tsp of Potassium MBS powder and should I be filtering on to as many as 5 of these? Seems wrong to me.

Yes I could go and buy some potassium MBS but it would be nice to know what is recommended.

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Old 27-10-2016, 08:55 AM   #23
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How come you left the Sorbate out?
The Sorbate Sachet would have contained the metabisulphate needed, if you didn't want the Sorbate and have so far not put any MBS in then go ahead and rack onto 5 crushed Campden tablets, I always Dissolve my sulfites and MBS in a little water for easier mixing
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How come you left the Sorbate out?
The Sorbate Sachet would have contained the metabisulphate needed, if you didn't want the Sorbate and have so far not put any MBS in then go ahead and rack onto 5 crushed Campden tablets, I always Dissolve my sulfites and MBS in a little water for easier mixing
Mikey, the instructions say leave out unless adding sweetners which I am not. Online vids say leave out too or rather, not necessary but add if you want more chemicals in it.

It is in day 2 of the 6 day fining period.

So you reckon 5 Campdens crushed and dissolved in a little wine is Ok? Instructions indicate do this after fining and after filtering and just before bottling!
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Sounds good to me. Don't worry about Campden tablets, when you make a wine from fruit you add them before fermentation, once fermentation has completed and before bottling so I really wouldn't worry about adding them once.
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Not worried about adding them once. What concerns me is the quantity. Yes the Campdens say add one per gallon but I suppose I am trying to get my head around how this is equivalent to 1/4 tsp of potassium MBS

Have emailed Kenridge but needless to say that chocolate teapot syndrome has kicked in!
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I would suggest just drinking them before the 6 months are up
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Oh then that should be simply that the tablets are not 100% MBS, tablets are normally made with fillers to make strong substances easier to measure and binders if needed to keep the pill as a pill
That is the case for all pills iirc
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I would suggest just drinking them before the 6 months are up
Very likely to happen but no.... wait.... the plan is to feed our habit with Wows and French trip supplies and the odd bottle of the kenridge yet get another high range kit on the go as soon as I bottle this one. Maybe a chance of a supply and demand overlap that MAY result in the option of letting some of the bottles go longer than 6 months.
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Oh then that should be simply that the tablets are not 100% MBS, tablets are normally made with fillers to make strong substances easier to measure and binders if needed to keep the pill as a pill
That is the case for all pills iirc
and you did suggest racking on to 5 tabs yourself Mikey.
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