Rye beers

HisDudeness · Jun 2, 2015

Just had a bottle of Adnams Crystal Rye IPA and really rate it pretty highly, have also enjoyed the Revisionist Rye Pale Ale from Marstons recently so was wondering if anyone has any rye based recipes that would be similar to beers of this style would definitely like to have a go a brewing a rye beer at some point!

Covrich · Jun 2, 2015

Revisonist Rye , was that the one exclusive to Tesco? I think I tried some of them the Rye included and I was pretty impressed with their range

ManseMasher · Jun 2, 2015

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/showthread.php?t=86481

Have a look at this and see what you think....

If you haven't already got it Greg Hughes' book (3 quid on Amazon) has a recipe too I'm pretty sure. I'll check mine tomorrow and put it in a pm if you haven't.

Edit - checked this morning - pg188 Roggenbier, 189 Rye beer.

MM

ProjectBeer · Jun 2, 2015

I really like Beavertown's 8 Ball Rye IPA. It's a style that's on my AG list when I eventually switch!

clibit · Jun 3, 2015

I love crystal rye and roasted/chocolate rye. Will dig out some recipes.

HisDudeness · Jun 3, 2015

Thanks everyone, yes the revisionist was from the Tescos exclusive range by Marstons and very good it was too! I do have the GH book so had a recipe there the whole time! It is hidden towards the back though. This Adnams beer was one of those 'I want another right now!' Drinks especially as it is only in a 330 bottle. The Adnams site gives some ingredient details as below

"Weâve used lots of hops from North America â Columbus, Centennial, Cascade, Amarillo and Citra â because we just love the delicious, big, bold, citrus and pine flavours and aromas they bring to the beer.

To balance out all this hoppy goodness weâve added Rye, plus some Pale Ale and Cara Malt, to imbue sweetness, body and balance as well as some lovely subtle toffee flavours"

GHW · Jun 3, 2015

YeAh the tesco revisionist rye is one of my fave beers. I've read rye is hard to mash. Why's that and what do you need to do differently with it?

Joeyriles · Jun 3, 2015

It's like you guys read my mind! I am looking to make a Rye beer for the Autumn after my Autumnal red ale didn't really work out.

rodwha · Jun 3, 2015

http://www.howtobrew.com/section3/chapter14-4.html

GHW · Jun 3, 2015

rodwha said:
http://www.howtobrew.com/section3/chapter14-4.html

Eek. Complicated.

Done a bit of reading, seems if you're using just 10%ish rye alongside regular malts you don't really need to mash differently. Gets a bit more involved after that. Probably not that complex if you sit down and work it out though. Just used some techniques that I haven't yet.

ManseMasher · Jun 3, 2015

Had to pop in to Tesco's on my way home. On your recommendations I have purchased 1 or 3 (maybe more) Revisionist IPA's. Really good. Another one on my Primani list!!

GHW · Jun 3, 2015

Nice. They're cheap as well. Did you get the black IPA? That's good too, as is the California common steam. The saison and wheat were drinkable but not great and I haven't had the red or lager.

ManseMasher · Jun 3, 2015

Not a great selection over here, just got the rye and saison. Will keep my eye out though!

HisDudeness · Jun 3, 2015

Playing around with a recipe calculator and information for the Adnams Rye IPA came up with this loosely based on 60 minute IPA in GH book.

This is my first attempt and just experimenting really so please feel free to point out any obvious blunders or improvements that could be made!

Batch 23L
Boil 60 min
OG 1.052
FG 1.012
ABV 5.4%
IBU 52.1
SRM 12

Grain
4.5 Kg Maris Otter
0.4 Kg Crystal Rye
0.3 Kg CaraMalt

Hops
Amarillo 8.5% 20g @ 60
Columbus 13.5% 10g @ 60
Amarillo 8.5% 10g @ 30
Columbus 13.5% 10g @ 30
Centennial 9.8% 5g @ 10
Citra 12.5% 5g @ 10
Amarillo 8.5% 5g @ 10
Centennial 9.8% 10g @ 0
Citra 12.5% 10g @ 0
Amarillo 8.5% 10g @ 0

Yeast
US 05

rodwha · Jun 4, 2015

I have mashed my rye without doing anything other than a simple mash. What has happened to me with m 31% rye was a very slow sparge.

rodwha · Jun 4, 2015

Just me, but according to the hop utilization chart that may or may not be accurate, shows the peak time for flavor is about 21 mins and the peak for aroma is about 7 mins. I'd change your 30 and 10 mins to that.

I have begun to do a whirlpool addition of two, as well as a dry hop for uber hoppy beers. It's gets a bit expensive though.

ManseMasher · Jun 4, 2015

Irish moss?

serum · Jun 4, 2015

I've used up to a third rye in some of my beers and you just have to add a load of rice or oat hulls in there to stop it being too sticky. It's the same as if you use a lot of wheat. It doesn't really need much else.

I made a great rye saison using 3kg pilsner, 1.5kg rye malt and 200g crystal with 25 IBU of Styrian Goldings for bittering and Wyeast French Saison yeast. It was lovely!

rodabod · Jun 11, 2015

ProjectBeer said:
I really like Beavertown's 8 Ball Rye IPA. It's a style that's on my AG list when I eventually switch!

This is a must-try if you like Rye. Also 5-Points Red Ale, and Brodie's Red IPA.

HisDudeness · Jul 7, 2015

Read up a bit on using rye in beers and came up with a few changes to recipe previously posted to hopefully improve it, basically added more rye but hopefully not enough to cause serious mashing problems and changed hopping to reflect what I am actually likely to have in stock and generally up the hoppyness a bit will hopefully try a small batch of this soon for a test run

Rye IPA

23l
ABV 5.8
IBU 51.7
SRM 13
OG 1.055
Fg 1.012

Grain
Mo 4kg
Rye malt 0.75kg
Crystal 60l 0.3kg
Crystal rye 0.3kg
Caramalt 0.2kg
Torrified wheat 0.2kg

Hops
Nugget 32g @ 60min
Nugget 10g @ 20min
Amarillo 10g @ 20min
Citra 10g @ 10min
Amarillo 10g @ 10min
Cascade 5g @ 10min
Amarillo 25g @ 0min
Citra 25g @ 0min
Cascade 10g @ 0min

Irish moss @ 15min

Yeast: Adnams or US 05

How does that look?

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