Register Now!
The HomeBrew Forum > Wine, Cider & Other Home Brewing Talk > Wine & Cider Discussions > No Degassing Step for Elderberry Wine

Help Support The Homebrew Forum by donating using the link above or becoming a Supporting Member.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 13-09-2017, 10:12 AM   #1
HelpImBlind
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 1
Likes Given: 2

Default No Degassing Step for Elderberry Wine

Hey All.

I'm entirely new to homebrewing, and I decided to jump off with this Elderberry Wine recipe: https://www.brewbitz.com/content/10-...ry-wine-recipe

I've just moved it to a second demijohn, where I added a Campden tablet, and I will leave it for a month before and final racking. I was just wondering - this recipe doesn't seem to have a degassing step whatsoever. Why? Is it necessary but skipped in the recipe - or unnecessary for some reason?

Thanks!
HelpImBlind is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 13-09-2017, 10:16 AM   #2
chewie
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 1,073
Liked 333 Times on 281 Posts
Likes Given: 30

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by HelpImBlind View Post
Hey All.

I'm entirely new to homebrewing, and I decided to jump off with this Elderberry Wine recipe: https://www.brewbitz.com/content/10-...ry-wine-recipe

I've just moved it to a second demijohn, where I added a Campden tablet, and I will leave it for a month before and final racking. I was just wondering - this recipe doesn't seem to have a degassing step whatsoever. Why? Is it necessary but skipped in the recipe - or unnecessary for some reason?

Thanks!
Wine will clear and degas itself over time, degassing is usually done to speed up the process when finings are going to be used.
chewie is offline  
HelpImBlind Likes This 
Reply With Quote
Old 13-09-2017, 10:20 AM   #3
Cwrw666
Senior Member
 
Cwrw666's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 1,320
Liked 551 Times on 391 Posts
Likes Given: 164

Default

I'd never heard of de-gassing homemade wine until I joined this forum. Just another way of introducing an infection to your brews if you ask me.
__________________
Ale, ale, glorious ale,
Served up in pewter it tells it's own tale.
Some folks likes radishes,
Some curl-eye kale,
But give I boiled parsnips
And a girt dish o taters
And a pint of good ale.
Cwrw666 is offline  
HelpImBlind Likes This 
Reply With Quote
Old 13-09-2017, 01:44 PM   #4
Bigeck
Tight Ass Jock
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Prestwick
Posts: 78
Liked 21 Times on 17 Posts
Likes Given: 43

Default

It's well worth making sure your wine is degassed. It spoils the taste, although there is nothing wrong with the wine itself. If you bottle up with gas still there you run the risk of the cork being pushed out, or having to shake the bottle to get rid of the gas when you open it.

You can leave it to degas naturally while the wine is clearing, but if it clears quickly you might still have a lot of gas there, and it could take months for the gas to go. Leaving the wine in a warmer area will help the gas to come out.

You can give the wine a shake to degas once you have racked off the sediment of use the drill and whip / coat hanger method.
Bigeck is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 13-09-2017, 03:27 PM   #5
tonyhibbett
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Isleworth, Middlesex
Posts: 2,481
Liked 106 Times on 99 Posts

Default

I never encountered degassing until I started using some (but not all) kits. It is supposed to ensure quick fining. I have found that red wine clears quite quickly without assistance, even before fermentation has finally completed. Fining removes some tannin, which may be desirable if large quantities of elderberries have been used, as is the case for the recipe you have used, depending on the size of the carrier bags! 5 pounds of elderberries with stalks should give 2 kilos of elderberries which would produce lots of tannin, so perhaps fining might be desirable. However, 3 pounds of sugar per gallon will almost certainly produce a sweet wine, especially since 2 kilos of elderberries would add another 200 g of sugar.
__________________
Established Vines: Chardonnay, (10 gals) Wrotham pinot, (3 gal) Cabernet sauvignon, (0.5 gals).
New Vines: Riesling.
Apple: 1 mature tree, variety unknown, (15 gals).
Small vineyard, currently 20 pinot noir, 4 rondo, 1 bacchus, 8 riesling, 2 dunkelfelder, 3 brandt, 3 regent, 2 flame, 3 strawberry grape, 1 phoenix, 3 vrogen van der laan, 1 chasselas dore, 4 chardonnay, 8 frankenthaler, 4 pinot blanc, 10 cabernet sauvignon, 2 Marechal Foch. 1 semillion, 4 madeleine angevine
tonyhibbett is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
degassing wine mancer62 Wine & Cider Discussions 25 15-05-2017 04:06 PM
Two-step elderberry cordial/wine GeorgeSalt Wine & Cider Recipes 6 13-01-2016 09:56 PM
Degassing Kit Wine emptybee Wine & Cider Discussions 10 25-02-2015 01:42 PM
Degassing wine fivegoldstars Wine & Cider Discussions 5 04-07-2014 07:47 PM
Degassing wine phrozenballs Wine & Cider Discussions 3 22-09-2012 09:41 AM

Newest Threads