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Old 19-06-2017, 07:37 PM   #61
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I might as well have been talking about him.... Where's that silver surfer when you need him!
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Old 19-06-2017, 07:40 PM   #62
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Many of us think everyone will be better once we are all free from worship.
It will never happen especially not in countries where religion is a huge part of their daily lives.

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Old 19-06-2017, 07:42 PM   #63
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Worried about radicalisation? Read this article and read the comments that follow it (I wouldn't normally link to this obscene rag).

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...rk-Mosque.html
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Old 19-06-2017, 07:45 PM   #64
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Many of us think everyone will be better once we are all free from worship.

"We wanna be free, to do what we wanna do..we wanna be free to ride....We wanna be free to ride our machines without being hassled by the man.."

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No, unfortunately you're right. I live in one of those communities, it's frightening how believers allow themselves to be exploited.
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Old 19-06-2017, 07:56 PM   #66
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Here's what someone I know typed about the person who committed this crime. I bet he's close.
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Pontyclun, that hot-bed of Islamic Fundamentalism and scene of so many Isis atrocities. **** didn't even have the decency to top himself and was easily overpowered by bystanders while he bravely attempted to flee the scene.
I'm picturing a heavily tattooed, seriously overweight, shaven headed, 'out of work' tradesman called Wayne or Leighton. His nickname down the club will be something like 'Rambo.' He'll have done a stretch in the TA's for a bit in his younger twenties, but been kicked out for being ****. He attributes his 'out of work' status to the fact that there's 'so many of them foreigners that it's taking the piss and not a level playing field no more' but the fact of the matter is, he's unreliable, smells and invariably does a **** job. He supports Leeds. Loves his dogs and his kids (in that order) but is currently separated from Missus Rambo number four. He saw what happened in Manchester and London and '****in' lost it.' He then took up Theresa's 'Enough is Enough' call to arms and decided that 'summin' ad to be done' and that he was gonna 'give 'em the mother of all terrorist incidents.' This attack had been planned about 8 hours in advance. On the dashboard of the van will be a jewel case containing two cds. Screwdriver's Greatest Hits and 'Nick and Tommy's Speeches To Make Us Great Again.'
Me and my prejudices. I dunno what I'd feel better about, being totally wrong with the above or bang on the numbers.
I used to live in Pontyclun by the way, there are hardly any Muslims living there.
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Old 19-06-2017, 10:05 PM   #67
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If you don't like talking about religion why do you spend so much time here doing just that?

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There's lots of things I don't like talking about... death/cancer/money worries/ blocked plugholes, but they are unavoidable, just like religion and the trouble it causes.
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There's lots of things I don't like talking about... death/cancer/money worries/ blocked plugholes, but they are unavoidable, just like religion and the trouble it causes.
It is unavoidable if you narrow your world view down to single issues.

Globalisation. Historical imperialism. Economic and military strategic and tactical alliances. Winners and Losers. Societal inequality. Poverty. Mistrust. Ignorance. Deceitful media.

And religion.

It's a powerful brew, isn't it? But if you boil it down to single issues, then you can justify racism and prejudice very easily.
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Sounds like an imperial IPA
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"We wanna be free, to do what we wanna do..we wanna be free to ride....We wanna be free to ride our machines without being hassled by the man.."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsHly9UuQ-A
Saw them play this again in Brum last Xmas. Still a great band.
Was shocked at the amount of people sleeping rough there. That is just not right.
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