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Old 12-08-2017, 02:06 PM   #1
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So there's two threads that crop up regularly on most wine making forums:

1. I can't find any red grape concentrate or red grape juice ( Except the over priced Wilco stuff),
2. Red wine kits lack the body and carictor of shop bought wines.

Well I had the same problems. I was making drinkable reds from cheap thirty bottle kits £20 - £30 or WOW wines that really needed some RGC to lift them to the next level. Neither had that real depth you get from a good shop bought red.

So I was looking for a cheap option to try and circumvent the above issues and I bought a pack of red grape powder of Ebay, £17 for 1Kg. It sat in a box of wine making equipment for about six month as I really wasn't expecting much from it and didn't want to waste time and effort to pour 23l down the drain. When I eventualy got round to making up a batch I thought I'd just use 500g with dextrose and E1118 yeast and a little nutrient. It started at 1.082 and finished 0.993. I did nothing except racking once and adding a two part clearing agent and leaving for a week before bottling. Well to my surprise I got 25 bottles of the best red wine I'd ever made, better than any kit I've made to this point.

That's 25 Bottles for half a pack plus dextrose and yeast.

I've since used it in place of RGC in WOWs and country wines with equally good results. I've just got another batch on go with some added raspberries and blackberries.

If anyone else has used grape powder please comment as I've not seen much written about it anywhere.

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I never heard of it before but thanks for sharing, I assume its this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Grape-Powd...-/282118668001
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1. I can't find any red grape concentrate or red grape juice ( Except the over priced Wilco stuff),
If that had been "I cannot find any white grape juice" i would agree but you can find red grape juice in every big supermarket.

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Sounds great. Hoping others give similar feedback, gonna give it a shot once I get back onshore. Has anyone tried the white?
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I never heard of it before but thanks for sharing, I assume its this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Grape-Powd...-/282118668001
Yes that's the stuff.
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If that had been "I cannot find any white grape juice" i would agree but you can find red grape juice in every big supermarket.

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Yes there's one brand at how much a liter? This makes 23l for £8.50
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I've just reread my original post and realised it sounded like an ad. I assure everyone I'm just a home brewer who's wanting to pas on something that has worked for me and have no links to this product (Now if they want to send me some that would be cool!).
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Yes there's one brand at how much a liter? This makes 23l for £8.50

3 for £3, I am not putting this powder down just pointing out that red grape juice unlike white grape juice is readily available.
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I see they do white grape juice powder for the same price. Interesting..........
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Cheers Led very interesting. I would not mind trying using it in a Port amongst other things.
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