ã7 an hour in London and zero hours contracts i am not surprised they are on strike.
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chub1
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I wouldn't work in a Mc D's for ã50 an hour,what a brain destroying job:twisted:
I am sure most people that work in these types of places would like to do something more interesting this does not give the management the right to bully them over hours, i hate zero hours contracts and they should be made illegal as labour pledged they would be.
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Good on them for standing up for themselves... however its such a fine line. When I was 18 most of my classmates as school worked in McDonalds... not because they had to, to live, but because they wanted money for nights out etc. (nothing wrong with that) When I was at uni, I worked part time in a shop on a low wage. This again was fine because I had my student loan to pay for most of my outgoings.
I think the real issue is that people are having to work in McD's as a full time job because they can't find anything else. If I was working their full time I would expect a wage I could live off, however this may not be the case for everyone and ã10 per hour is ã19,500 per year, full time. Thats more than most graduate jobs are to start with for what is a low skill, service industry role. I am not having a go at fast food workers at all, but when compared with a somellier in a fine dining restaurant for example, there is very little knowledge needed to do the role. Starting out, I was on less than that as an Assistant Manager at a clothing store and about the same as a food buyer.
I think the problem is bigger than just one company and this should be addressed.
On a side note, they should scrap zero hour contracts but they should bring in a voluntary flexible working contract in its place. Some companies use them as a way to provide flexible working for both themselves and the employee and when combined with a generous hourly wage can be useful for companies and employees.
I think the real issue is that people are having to work in McD's as a full time job because they can't find anything else. If I was working their full time I would expect a wage I could live off, however this may not be the case for everyone and ã10 per hour is ã19,500 per year, full time. Thats more than most graduate jobs are to start with for what is a low skill, service industry role. I am not having a go at fast food workers at all, but when compared with a somellier in a fine dining restaurant for example, there is very little knowledge needed to do the role. Starting out, I was on less than that as an Assistant Manager at a clothing store and about the same as a food buyer.
I think the problem is bigger than just one company and this should be addressed.
On a side note, they should scrap zero hour contracts but they should bring in a voluntary flexible working contract in its place. Some companies use them as a way to provide flexible working for both themselves and the employee and when combined with a generous hourly wage can be useful for companies and employees.
Its the classic game of cat n mouse, you ask for ã10 they offer ã7:50 you come back with ã9:50 and the game continues until you reach something acceptable at the end of the day any rise is better than nothing which is what i imagine they were going to get for the foreseeable future.
The thing is unless these protesters are anyway successful Mcdonald will sack them all...because they can...with no reason. Within the next few years the minimum wage will be ã10 + per hour for over 21's (I think!) no matter what job you are doing.
One thing I really detest is bullying managers...I wonder if McDonald's condone this behaviour or would their chief of personnel be truly horrified and shocked it is happening within the business and seek those responsible and sack THEM? I doubt it...
One thing I really detest is bullying managers...I wonder if McDonald's condone this behaviour or would their chief of personnel be truly horrified and shocked it is happening within the business and seek those responsible and sack THEM? I doubt it...
I would normally agree but the fact they are now union members and its now all over the news may just stop them, they have been accused of having bullying managers who reduce staff hours if they don't like them imagine the uproar if they sacked those who have gone on strike.
Depends whether they have official recognition. This doesn't have to be company wide just 10% of a section ie shopfloor workers per outlet. As long as they go through the correct procedure to get recognised the company legally has to accept this decision from its workers.
I worked for a company many years ago where wage divide between people doing the same job was massive...in my case I was getting around ã3600 LESS per year...yeah not funny. On the shopfloor we decided union membership was needed so we went about it correctly,the company kicked up a right stink and point blank refused saying the office lot "didn't want" a union...our union rep explained they weren't included! Just us (bargaining group). They refused until the last day they had when the legal notification ran out.
Yes I got my ã3600 pay rise...as did a lot of others! And yes the place is still open and very busy.
I worked for a company many years ago where wage divide between people doing the same job was massive...in my case I was getting around ã3600 LESS per year...yeah not funny. On the shopfloor we decided union membership was needed so we went about it correctly,the company kicked up a right stink and point blank refused saying the office lot "didn't want" a union...our union rep explained they weren't included! Just us (bargaining group). They refused until the last day they had when the legal notification ran out.
Yes I got my ã3600 pay rise...as did a lot of others! And yes the place is still open and very busy.
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Many moons ago I worked for McDonalds whilst at college and uni holidays and although it was hard work it was great fun because nearly everyone was of a similar ago doing the same thing - working for beer money. At the time the money was decent. Full time staff had minimum hours but most staff were part time and were given their shifts two weeks in advance with plenty of people to swap with etc.
Did me no harm working there. For various reasons it stands out in a cv. When I went for an interview with my current employer which is a million miles away from Mcdonalds all we talked about was burgers and Mcdonalds
Did me no harm working there. For various reasons it stands out in a cv. When I went for an interview with my current employer which is a million miles away from Mcdonalds all we talked about was burgers and Mcdonalds
Wilfy
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I'd lick the Mcfloors clean for ã50 an hour!
chub1
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God,i only go in there if we have our grandson!!!!!!,b####y terrible places and god damn terrible food:twisted::twisted::lol:
��ã7 an hour in London and zero hours contracts i am not surprised they are on strike.
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They flipped after a flurry of complaints were ignored
Hoping for a shake up
Trade Union reps are going to relish the chance to negotiate a better deal
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Does anyone remember the burger clans from Judge Dredd.
I'd rather starve than eat a 'Maccy D'.
