LarryF
Brew Numpty
Read this earlier, if already posted please delete thread.
https://www.courthousenews.com/brewer-says-bad-yeast-tanked-beer-sales/
https://www.courthousenews.com/brewer-says-bad-yeast-tanked-beer-sales/
White Labs in trouble?
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MyQul
Chairman of the Bored
Oh dear!
(noone else has posted about this so far larry)
(noone else has posted about this so far larry)
strange-steve
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Yikes. I wonder how they could prove the origin of the contamination was the supplied yeast.
If the DNA test a variety of shop bought bottles from multiple batches over a X length of time and find the same wild strain in all of them, the likelihood of the brewery getting the same wild yeast infections from poor hygiene would be infinitesimally small. As if their production process was that poor, you would expect multiple types of wild yeast infections. Not just one
Godfather50
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Nice to have someone else to blame. I'll keep it up my sleeve.
nigelnorris
Beavis at Bat
Says this in the QC section of their website
"Limitation of Liability: While we strive to produce the best products possible, yeast and bacteria are living, microbiological products that are subject to environmental conditions, for example, during shipping and storage/use at the customer. Therefore, the total liability of White Labs to customers shall in no circumstances exceed the sum of the purchase price of products from White Labs. White Labs is not responsible for other ingredient costs, sales costs, labor, etc."
"Limitation of Liability: While we strive to produce the best products possible, yeast and bacteria are living, microbiological products that are subject to environmental conditions, for example, during shipping and storage/use at the customer. Therefore, the total liability of White Labs to customers shall in no circumstances exceed the sum of the purchase price of products from White Labs. White Labs is not responsible for other ingredient costs, sales costs, labor, etc."
Ajhutch
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Ouch.
I did like this bit from the article:
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brewers found that Extrovert IPA ââ¬Åexhibited phenolic characteristics.ââ¬Â
In other words, the beer didnââ¬â¢t taste right.
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I did like this bit from the article:
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brewers found that Extrovert IPA ââ¬Åexhibited phenolic characteristics.ââ¬Â
In other words, the beer didnââ¬â¢t taste right.
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Does the small print mean nothing? Purchasers already agree by buying the yeast that ultimately nature has full control of the product. I bet white labs have conformity certs for every batch they release.
Bit like me thrashing my focus estate through the hedge and blaming ford?
Just a few thoughts.....
Bit like me thrashing my focus estate through the hedge and blaming ford?
Just a few thoughts.....
BeerCat
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Even if found liable wont they have insurance? I cant see them going bust. Find their new packs annoying though, hard to shake.
MyQul
Chairman of the Bored
I went over to HBT to see what their forumites were saying about this, seeing as it's based in their country. I was surprised to discover noone had picked it up over there so I started a thread myself.
There's some interesting debate on this with one particular poster seeming to know the ins and outs of the US legal system giving his take on it
https://www.homebrewtalk.com/forum/threads/white-labs-lawsuit.638980/
There's some interesting debate on this with one particular poster seeming to know the ins and outs of the US legal system giving his take on it
https://www.homebrewtalk.com/forum/threads/white-labs-lawsuit.638980/
I too don't see the brewery getting much out of White Labs, especially because WL are selling a living organism and already disclaim any liability further than returning the purchase price if the customer is dissatisfied.
I will try to remember "It must have been the yeast." though; for the next time I screw up a brew! :thumb:
BTW, I loved this comment on the US Forum ...
"It'd be like suing the guy who showed up sick to work for the days you missed cuz you got sick from him."
Especially as an hour ago SWMBO said "I think I'm getting a cold." and then kissed me goodnight before retiring to her sickbed!
I will try to remember "It must have been the yeast." though; for the next time I screw up a brew! :thumb:
BTW, I loved this comment on the US Forum ...
"It'd be like suing the guy who showed up sick to work for the days you missed cuz you got sick from him."
Especially as an hour ago SWMBO said "I think I'm getting a cold." and then kissed me goodnight before retiring to her sickbed!
LarryF
Brew Numpty
This seems to be hotting up now.
https://www.denverpost.com/2017/12/18/left-hand-brewing-milk-stout-nitro-damages/
https://www.denverpost.com/2017/12/18/left-hand-brewing-milk-stout-nitro-damages/
Couldnt they just test yeast they have to see if there are traces of thr wild yeast?
