Register Now!
The HomeBrew Forum > Beer Brewing Talk > General Recipe Discussion > Bramling Cross/Goldings ESB type thing

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 19-04-2017, 04:26 PM   #1
sven945
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 133
Liked 31 Times on 22 Posts
Likes Given: 3

Default Bramling Cross/Goldings ESB type thing

As much as I like the stupidly hopped American IPAs, or the very strong Belgian dubbels or what have you, I do enjoy a nice bitter every now and then. I'd quite like to try something, vaguely along the lines of a fullers ESB, and I'd also quite like to try using Bramling Cross hops. I know some people love them and some people hate them, but descriptions that I've read sound tasty.

I've thrown this together, using Goldings as well because I've got them in the freezer. I was planning on using WLP028 Edinburgh Ale because I've got a jar harvested from a brew a month or so back. I know it wouldn't give any fruitiness from the yeast that's usual for the style, but does it sound like it could work? I'd rather save �£7 and use what I've already got, but I can buy more yeast if wiser people than I suggest it's worth it.

12 litre batch.

2.2kg pale malt (87%)
150g dark crystal (6%)
150g torrified wheat (6%)
30g black malt (1.2%)

20g Goldings @ 60 minutes
10g Goldings @ 20 minutes
20g Bramling Cross @ 20 minutes
10g Goldings @ 5 minutes
20g Bramling Cross @ 5 minutes

WLP028
Beersmith estimates 1048 OG and 1012 FG and 4.64% ABV mashing at 66.7ºC.

I did have more dark crystal, but every recipe critique seems to say cut back on crystal in almost all situations! I've put the touch of black malt in just for a bit of extra colour. Anything on there that looks ridiculous?


sven945 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 19-04-2017, 08:43 PM   #2
Slid
Forum Friend
THBF_MODERATOR.png
 
Slid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Bolton
Posts: 2,893
Liked 781 Times on 648 Posts
Likes Given: 799

Default

I have done GH's Cornish Tin Miner's Ale using Bramling Cross and First Gold and that turned out great. Recipe looks a bit heavy hop-wise for 12L, but since that is the sort of beer you like, it looks good to me.


Slid is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 19-04-2017, 09:22 PM   #3
sven945
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 133
Liked 31 Times on 22 Posts
Likes Given: 3

Default

Some more digging made me agree I might have gone too heavy on the hops. I'll probably reduce the later hop additions (everything but the initial bittering) by a third. Thanks!
sven945 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 19-04-2017, 10:27 PM   #4
MrRook
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Vancouver Washigton, USA
Posts: 22
Liked 8 Times on 8 Posts
Likes Given: 4

Default

Give it a go and let us know how it turns out.
Don't worry about getting it too hoppy; hop presence fades with time and too hoppy in Jan will be great in April or May.
MrRook is offline  
sven945 Likes This 
Reply With Quote
Old 20-04-2017, 08:18 PM   #5
chub1
Junior Member
 
chub1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: surrey north
Posts: 961
Liked 330 Times on 250 Posts
Likes Given: 428

Default

I did a brew bittered with Challenger and then remaider Bramling X,came out a decent drink. Bramling X not to everyone's taste i think!
chub1 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 20-04-2017, 09:32 PM   #6
sven945
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 133
Liked 31 Times on 22 Posts
Likes Given: 3

Default

I wish I could get myself one of the Brewdog Bramling Cross single hop beers, but they're long gone. My logic is that I'm pairing each addition with goldings so it *shouldn't* overpower things quite so much. But my thinking may be way off!
sven945 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 22-04-2017, 04:08 PM   #7
darrellm
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Near Malvern
Posts: 1,325
Liked 371 Times on 297 Posts
Likes Given: 24

Default

I love Bramling Cross, several of my local breweries use it in both dark and light beers. Look out for Wye Valley Butty Bach in your local supermarker, it's a pale ale with Bramling Cross and Goldings.
http://www.wyevalleybrewery.co.uk/pr...e-0b6ef1d339e0

I recently tried to replicate it and here's the hop bill I used for a 13L brew. It came out nice but a little too strong tasting for my liking, so I'd dial back the BC late hop additions next time.

Hop Bill - 13L brew
----------------
19.0 g Fuggles Leaf (5.7% Alpha) @ 60 Minutes (Boil) (1.5 g/L)
10.0 g Styrian Golding Leaf (4.4% Alpha) @ 60 Minutes (Boil) (0.8 g/L)
10.0 g Bramling Cross Leaf (5.1% Alpha) @ 15 Minutes (Boil) (0.8 g/L)
10.0 g Bramling Cross Leaf (5.1% Alpha) @ 0 Minutes (Aroma) (0.8 g/L)
10.0 g Styrian Golding Leaf (4.4% Alpha) @ 0 Minutes (Aroma) (0.8 g/L)

Looking at your recipe, I'd probably halve that last BC addition to 10g rather than 20g, BC is nice but I think needs to be subtly added - it's not like a US hop that you can keep adding more and more.


My other local brewery is Hillside, they produce a Dark Mild with BC which again I attempted to replicate, this turned out lovely
https://www.hillsidebrewery.com/product/over-the-hill/

Hop Bill- 12L brew
----------------
16.7 g Bramling Cross Leaf (5.1% Alpha) @ 60 Minutes (Boil) (1.4 g/L)
7.8 g Bramling Cross Leaf (5.1% Alpha) @ 10 Minutes (Boil) (0.7 g/L)
10.0 g Bramling Cross Pellet (5.1% Alpha) @ 0 Minutes (Aroma) (0.8 g/L)
darrellm is offline  
chub1 Likes This 
Reply With Quote
Old 22-04-2017, 05:26 PM   #8
sven945
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 133
Liked 31 Times on 22 Posts
Likes Given: 3

Default

Great, thanks for your help. I'll definitely tone down that latter one to 10g then. Probably the earlier one too. I can always up it in a future brew.
sven945 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 22-04-2017, 07:11 PM   #9
chub1
Junior Member
 
chub1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: surrey north
Posts: 961
Liked 330 Times on 250 Posts
Likes Given: 428

Default

Getting a Brixton Porter on the go in the morning,Challenger and Bramling X in that one,although at low levels.


chub1 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Goldings substitute for Bramling Cross in Pannepot recipe? Madchester7 General Recipe Discussion 9 04-10-2016 09:22 PM
Bramling Cross AlanJones General Recipe Discussion 3 02-04-2016 02:53 PM
AG#47 - Bramling Cross IPA pdtnc Beer Brewdays! 15 18-01-2011 03:29 PM
AG#22 - Bramling XB (Bramling Cross Bitter) pdtnc Beer Brewdays! 7 05-05-2010 07:34 PM
Fuggles and Bramling cross rickthebrew Grain, Hops, Yeast & Water 15 28-01-2010 12:18 PM

Newest Threads