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Bad_Idea_Beers

Bad Idea Beers
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Hi all,

I just wanted to show off my prototype bar that I have just finished. I have had loads of advice and learnt a lot from this forum so thanks for all the help over the last year and any questions feel free to ask.

Need to find a cheap fridge or freezer to make the conversion but couldn't wait to get everything up and running. Once I have the chest freezer (ideally) it will then all be transferred onto that with a temp regulator.

I have used an old draw unit that just so happened to hold 2 corny kegs perfectly :) so out came the draws and out came the drill to start the transformation. Luckily I did this while the other half was away for the weekend, when she came back I told her she never liked the unit anyway!

At the moment I have to put the kegs in the freezer for a few hours before serving but apart from that its all working perfectly.

I have 4 flow control faucets and for the tap handles I got some old wood I found on a beach and cut/waxed them up and then bought the adaption to screw into the base so they screwed onto the faucet.

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Bad_Idea_Beers said:
Thanks all.

Once I get the chest freezer and have the keezer set up I will post some more pics.
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Hi BIB

Your set up looks superb!! I am toying with the idea of doing a 2 or 3 tap setup. However it is quite a bit of initial outlay and I have zero knowledge of this subject.

Do you know of any threads or forums explaining how to set this up for dummies like me? Would really love it

Ta
Zippy
 
Hi Zippy,

I think it was actually on here that I found a few threads about set up but can not remember.

The initial outlay is quiet a lot but I think most people struggle finding a CO2 canister at a good price. 100% worth looking for that before you buy equipment.

The 3 taps on the right are these (cheap for what they are).

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Adjustabl...728988?hash=item33bf5ac4dc:g:5YYAAOSwYIxX3loD

The one on the left is this one (does not come with a handle or shank) and a lot more expensive.

http://www.kegkingdom.co.uk/products/intertap-flow-control-stainless-steel

My thought process was that I will have 1 keg that I use more so buy better quality the others will probably be used less so went cheap as I could not afford 4 of the Intertap's.

I made sure all of the taps were flow control as I didn’t want to mess around with loads of beer line. If you don’t have flow control I think about 8ft of beer line to start with out from the keg to the tap is a good starting point and then adjust if needed. Better to start too long than too small.

Everything else is actually quite easy as it's just about making sure connections are tight.

Think this was the regulator I bought.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CO2-MIG-W...341369?hash=item27f2aff139:g:OGYAAOSwdzVXpDVV

Set that to 10-12psi roughly with beer at fridge temp for a few days and it will carbonate. You need to be at about 30psi if room temp but use this carbonation table as a guide.

http://www.kegerators.com/carbonation-table.php

I hope the brief summary helps. Obviously you can but all that stuff from different places these are just where I got mine from (I think).
 
Bad_Idea_Beers said:
Hi Zippy,

I think it was actually on here that I found a few threads about set up but can not remember.

The initial outlay is quiet a lot but I think most people struggle finding a CO2 canister at a good price. 100% worth looking for that before you buy equipment.

The 3 taps on the right are these (cheap for what they are).

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Adjustabl...728988?hash=item33bf5ac4dc:g:5YYAAOSwYIxX3loD

The one on the left is this one (does not come with a handle or shank) and a lot more expensive.

http://www.kegkingdom.co.uk/products/intertap-flow-control-stainless-steel

My thought process was that I will have 1 keg that I use more so buy better quality the others will probably be used less so went cheap as I could not afford 4 of the Intertap's.

I made sure all of the taps were flow control as I didn’t want to mess around with loads of beer line. If you don’t have flow control I think about 8ft of beer line to start with out from the keg to the tap is a good starting point and then adjust if needed. Better to start too long than too small.

Everything else is actually quite easy as it's just about making sure connections are tight.

Think this was the regulator I bought.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CO2-MIG-W...341369?hash=item27f2aff139:g:OGYAAOSwdzVXpDVV

Set that to 10-12psi roughly with beer at fridge temp for a few days and it will carbonate. You need to be at about 30psi if room temp but use this carbonation table as a guide.

http://www.kegerators.com/carbonation-table.php

I hope the brief summary helps. Obviously you can but all that stuff from different places these are just where I got mine from (I think).
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that regulator is a flow control for mig welding and does not read PSI,you can use it but youll never know the PSI you need to know for carbing up,as a retired welder I should have known better when I ordered one and ended up sending it back.these eBay shops should stop describing them as ok for pub bar bottles they are not
 
Hi Zippy, the gas can be hard to come by in NI. I was lucky that a forum member (now sadly left the forum) travelled to England and got me a bottle. There are places that will refill them but a bottle will last ages.

If you don't already have one, buy a fridge before you buy the kegs. I done things backwards and regretted it.
 
Bad_Idea_Beers said:
Hi Zippy,

I think it was actually on here that I found a few threads about set up but can not remember.

The initial outlay is quiet a lot but I think most people struggle finding a CO2 canister at a good price. 100% worth looking for that before you buy equipment.

The 3 taps on the right are these (cheap for what they are).

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Adjustabl...728988?hash=item33bf5ac4dc:g:5YYAAOSwYIxX3loD

The one on the left is this one (does not come with a handle or shank) and a lot more expensive.

http://www.kegkingdom.co.uk/products/intertap-flow-control-stainless-steel

My thought process was that I will have 1 keg that I use more so buy better quality the others will probably be used less so went cheap as I could not afford 4 of the Intertap's.

I made sure all of the taps were flow control as I didn’t want to mess around with loads of beer line. If you don’t have flow control I think about 8ft of beer line to start with out from the keg to the tap is a good starting point and then adjust if needed. Better to start too long than too small.

Everything else is actually quite easy as it's just about making sure connections are tight.

Think this was the regulator I bought.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CO2-MIG-W...341369?hash=item27f2aff139:g:OGYAAOSwdzVXpDVV

Set that to 10-12psi roughly with beer at fridge temp for a few days and it will carbonate. You need to be at about 30psi if room temp but use this carbonation table as a guide.

http://www.kegerators.com/carbonation-table.php

I hope the brief summary helps. Obviously you can but all that stuff from different places these are just where I got mine from (I think).
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Great reply and many thanks for this - you have certainly given me food for thought! Now I will have to look at sourcing the other stuff. One other wee question - if I source a corny keg or two they tend to be 19lts, so does this mean I also need to bottle a few off as while (I do 20 lt brews) or are the cornys slightly larger than 19lts??:thumb:
 
GlentoranMark said:
Hi Zippy, the gas can be hard to come by in NI. I was lucky that a forum member (now sadly left the forum) travelled to England and got me a bottle. There are places that will refill them but a bottle will last ages.

If you don't already have one, buy a fridge before you buy the kegs. I done things backwards and regretted it.
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what about one of these http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Homebrew-kegging-Regulated-CO2-Charger-kit-Regulated-Portable-CO2-Keg-0-60PSI-/301947749538?hash=item464d7d04a2:g:FEQAAOSw~oFXKU1~ I think they use the CO2 bulbs that are sold in house of homebrew???

Or do you know if BOC would sell me a bottle of CO2???
 
GlentoranMark said:
Hi Zippy, the gas can be hard to come by in NI. I was lucky that a forum member (now sadly left the forum) travelled to England and got me a bottle. There are places that will refill them but a bottle will last ages.

If you don't already have one, buy a fridge before you buy the kegs. I done things backwards and regretted it.
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Mark, can I also ask - where do you get your CO2 filled when recharging your CO2 cylinder?

Thanks
Zippy
 
Hi Godsdog. The regulator reads PSI and when I have set it to the correct level it has always carbonated correctly.

Maybe I have just been lucky then when carbonating. What is it about them that is different as I may look into getting a new one then.
 
Hi Zippy,

When I looked into it using those disposable cartridges the price added up quickly when you look at what you need to use to carbonate and then to get the flow. Also I am not sure how easy they are to regulate the pressure.

I am lucky enough to live in the catchment are of these guys. http://www.aldd.co.uk/ I know a few people on here use them. They deliver a new canister and pick up the old one.

They only charge £16 ish for a canister with no rent or deposit. :)
 
Bad_Idea_Beers said:
Hi Godsdog. The regulator reads PSI and when I have set it to the correct level it has always carbonated correctly.

Maybe I have just been lucky then when carbonating. What is it about them that is different as I may look into getting a new one then.
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The one in the link says both clocks read bar not psi, the clock on the right shows the amount if gas left in the tank. The one on the left should read graduated psi not bar also,ps,looking again it does I think read psi in blocks of 5 on the inside,the one I had off eBay didnt
 
Hi Zippy, I've never had a CO2 canister filled, it lasts absolute ages - 2 years+ and why most CO2 suppliers don't like selling to home brewers. I think my canister came from that aldd site above. There's a place up the Colinglen Road in West Belfast I've been told will fill it but I've never had the need.

I've never seen that regulator before, it's not the type you need for Corny Kegs. I don't think BOC will sell you a bottle but tell them your thinking about starting a Welding Business and see what they say but they may rather "rent" you the bottle monthly which would quickly mount up for us home brewers.
 
GlentoranMark said:
Hi Zippy, I've never had a CO2 canister filled, it lasts absolute ages - 2 years+ and why most CO2 suppliers don't like selling to home brewers. I think my canister came from that aldd site above. There's a place up the Colinglen Road in West Belfast I've been told will fill it but I've never had the need.

I've never seen that regulator before, it's not the type you need for Corny Kegs. I don't think BOC will sell you a bottle but tell them your thinking about starting a Welding Business and see what they say but they may rather "rent" you the bottle monthly which would quickly mount up for us home brewers.
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Great help thanks. I may research some more :):thumb:
 
I had a quick gander online to look for supplies. Anyone in NI/Ireland used this company here http://thebarcompany.ie/shop/draugh...g/?remove_from_wishlist_after_add_to_cart=347

They will do CO2 for about £50. Much dearer than others but if it lasts for a couple of years then doable. I don't know if they deliver to NI or not but I would be down south a couple of times a year so could call into the shop then and collect.
 

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