Tau
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It's Michael Foot all over again. Corbyn Bin Bin relected.
It's Michael Foot all over again. Corbyn Bin Bin relected.
End of Labour?
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MyQul
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Probably not. (And in keeping with threads in the snug), The Conservatives have been putting flouride in the water just to make you think its the end of labour
I have just read, 300,000 voted for him, 250,000 were not allowed to vote and the loser
got 200,000 I actually like Corbyn and hope he proves his doubters wrong.
got 200,000 I actually like Corbyn and hope he proves his doubters wrong.
Tau
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I doubt it, been saving money, they make you think there is floride hence:
http://www.bbc.com/news/health-37449696
geetee
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He may not be the complete answer but look at the alternatives! Last time it was Liz Kendal, Burnham or Yvette Cooper, absolutely no contest especially when Chukoff Umuna bottled out.
This time Owen's Myth who didn't even believe his own lies and had to keep changing his story every day.
it's a bit like a game of football or Olympic medal you can't blame the runaway winner for the lack of any credible opposition.
Godsdog
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end of labour?yep for at least the next ten years unless the rank and file membership come to their senses,will they though?socialism is dead and they cant see it
A massive mandate from the members who support him. Must stick in the throat of the career politicians and the media who have bent over backwards to paint him as Satan.
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Couldn't agree more. I've never been a Labour voter but Corbyn is someone I can see run this country well. His liberal and left wing views have scared a lot of rich people so Labour is being reported to be a mess with a leader no one in the party likes, as well as a lot of negative rumours about him colluding with terrorists and being anti-semitic.
Truth is he's the leader a lot of people in the Labour party want, and he's the leader a lot of people want running the country.
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But not enough to win an election, in fact they are abolishing his seat, so will another area even elect him as an MP? Labour only won elections when they moved towards the right. There's far less left wing than right wing at the moment, I guess that's 15 years of no labour, which I not bothered by, but you need someone to stop any government from running rampant over the nation.
Soton
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I like him and I like a lot of what he would do for the country, not all of it is to my liking, he scares me that he seems a bit of an appeaser and history shows us that dose not turn out well, but that said he seems an honest person which is very rare in his profession
The utilities company's and the railways need to be nationalised as it's clear that that fair priced energy and good transport is needed for the country and the people, big business has shown it is only interested in profit, given half a chance milk us all to make the share holders richer, but to be fair that is there job, and so can't be trusted to do the right thing, then the country suffers because of it.
Sadly I also think that labour will never win an election with Corbyn leading the party as most voters prefer a more moderate political party because he is seen as extreme and extremes scare people
Not true. Labour don't win because not enough people voted for them. I'm sure the SNP would have popped up a labour government but labour failed in England and Wales.
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HebridesRob
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As Conservative party policies move rightwards there could be a time when Corbyn's policies seem nearer to the centre ground.
Godsdog
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great analogy,but bliar was Maggie thatchers dick without a brain.hate that **** with a passion
Hoppyland
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Well, if that's true then I'll just give up on the world.
For me, Blair did his best to kill socialism in the Labour party. For a while it seemed to work for most people in this nation, but as far as I could see it was just a continuation of Thatcherite "grab as much as you can" ideology, with a slightly more sympathetic nod to the poor.
For me, socialism (although how exactly would you define it?) is now an essential way forward.
As I see it, what is happening now is:
Increasing control of the world by global corporations, not governments.
Vastly increasing disparity between the earnings of the "haves" and the "have-nots".
A complete reduction in "compassion". The thoughts that the disadvantaged in our society are merely "scroungers". And that refugees whose lives have been destroyed in
disintegrating countries who seek sanctuary here are "benefit tourists". Or, worse, dangerous assassins whose real motive is not to help themselves and their families, but to kill us all.
No, for me the only hope is that we can have a system that genuinely respects and protects the rights of everyone. For me, that is the definition of socialism. Also, for me the present Westminster government is a million miles away from offering a "fair deal" for the majority of British citizens - it so obviously favours the privileged, so only the rich get richer. I'm continually amazed at how people vote (turkeys for christmas is the obvious metaphor, at least south of the Scottish border).
But, surely, there has to be a cracking point. What is the modern equivalent of the Jarrow march? If you destroy the unions, and try to crack down on serious unrest (I guess virtually anything can now be suppressed under our "anti-terrorism" measures), then what do people do to express their dissent and anguish?
I don't know, and I don't like where this might be heading.
But I do like the idea of "socialism", so that the people of this country can feel the system includes them, at least to some extent, as opposed to the present government. It calls itself democracy, but as far as I can see, it is increasingly a plutocracy, and one which sees no bounds to its hunger for power, and for its sponsors hunger for more and more money.
At some point, this can only fail - either through the people electing extremists, or actual social unrest on a large scale. Not good. For me, socialism cannot be dead!
geetee
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Just like Donald Trump would never win a nomination and even if he did he would never get anywhere near winning as POTUS. Let's hope not.
Don't write Corbyn off until he has had the full support of the party and the tories make a complete mess of Brexit!
geetee
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Agree that if Labour do well in England there is enough common ground to have an "arrangement" to form a Government rather than a full coalition. there are things they differ on ( trident) but there are many more things that Corbyn and the SNP would have in common as well as the desire to see off the Tories.
