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Old 30-03-2017, 07:24 PM   #1
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I am looking to make a clone of 5am saint - I have got the recipe from DIY Dog but have dropped the crystal malts down a bit, just looking for some confirmation that the recipe looks OK? Should I maybe also drop the amount of caramalt as well?

HOME BREW RECIPE:
Title: 5am Sinner

Brew Method: All Grain
Style Name: American Amber Ale
Boil Time: 60 min
Batch Size: 20.1 liters (fermentor volume)
Boil Size: 25 liters
Boil Gravity: 1.043
Efficiency: 68% (brew house)


STATS:
Original Gravity: 1.053
Final Gravity: 1.013
ABV (standard): 5.2%
IBU (tinseth): 34.18
SRM (morey): 13.63

FERMENTABLES:
3.2 kg - United Kingdom - Pale 2-Row (63.3%)
800 g - United Kingdom - Cara Malt (15.8%)
635 g - United Kingdom - Munich (12.6%)
300 g - American - Caramel / Crystal 60L (5.9%)
120 g - United Kingdom - Crystal 140L (2.4%)

HOPS:
5.5 g - Amarillo, Type: Pellet, AA: 9, Use: Boil for 60 min, IBU: 6.68
5.5 g - Cascade, Type: Pellet, AA: 5.1, Use: Boil for 60 min, IBU: 3.79
5.5 g - Nelson Sauvin, Type: Pellet, AA: 12.5, Use: Boil for 30 min, IBU: 7.14
11.5 g - Amarillo, Type: Pellet, AA: 9, Use: Boil for 15 min, IBU: 6.94
11.5 g - Nelson Sauvin, Type: Pellet, AA: 12.5, Use: Boil for 15 min, IBU: 9.63
14 g - Amarillo, Type: Pellet, AA: 9, Use: Boil for 0 min
14 g - Nelson Sauvin, Type: Pellet, AA: 12.5, Use: Boil for 0 min
31 g - Ahtanum, Type: Pellet, AA: 6, Use: Dry Hop for 7 days
31 g - Amarillo, Type: Pellet, AA: 9, Use: Dry Hop for 7 days
59.5 g - Cascade, Type: Pellet, AA: 5.1, Use: Dry Hop for 7 days
59.5 g - Centennial, Type: Pellet, AA: 9, Use: Dry Hop for 7 days
14 g - Nelson Sauvin, Type: Pellet, AA: 12.5, Use: Dry Hop for 7 days
31 g - Simcoe, Type: Pellet, AA: 12, Use: Dry Hop for 7 days

MASH GUIDELINES:
1) Temp: 62 C, Time: 60 min, Amount: 13 L
Starting Mash Thickness: 2.9 L/kg

YEAST:
Fermentis / Safale - English Ale Yeast S-04
Starter: No
Form: Dry
Attenuation (avg): 75%
Flocculation: High
Optimum Temp: 12.22 - 25 C
Fermentation Temp: 20 C

TARGET WATER PROFILE:
Profile Name: Edinburgh (Scottish Ale, Malty Ale)
Ca2: 100
Mg2: 18
Na: 20
Cl: 45
SO4: 105
HCO3: 235
Water Notes:


This recipe has been published online at:
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Date: 2017-03-30 19:22 UTC
Recipe Last Updated: 2017-03-30 19:22 UTC
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Old 30-03-2017, 09:11 PM   #2
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Why have you dropped the amounts?
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It just seemed like a lot of crystal malts and I have heard rumors of people thinking some of the recipes were not 100% accurate. For the 20L batch DIY Dog has the following grain bill...

Extra Pale 2.56kg 5.6lb
Caramalt 0.88kg 1.9lb
Munich 0.63kg 1.4lb
Crystal 150 0.38kg 0.83lb
Dark Crystal 0.13kg 0.28lb
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It just seemed like a lot of crystal malts and I have heard rumors of people thinking some of the recipes were not 100% accurate. For the 20L batch DIY Dog has the following grain bill...

Extra Pale 2.56kg 5.6lb
Caramalt 0.88kg 1.9lb
Munich 0.63kg 1.4lb
Crystal 150 0.38kg 0.83lb
Dark Crystal 0.13kg 0.28lb
I would roll with it. 5am saint is known for its caramel flavours
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Old 31-03-2017, 06:50 AM   #5
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Same. Others have done the recipe with great success, and it isn't like the sweetness won't be balanced by the hops.
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I always grin when I see a brewdog hop bill. You are going to be one busy boy during the boil with that lot. If you do it then please let us know how it turns out. I'm rather partial to a bottle of 5am saint myself.
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OK, I went for it!! Will let everyone know how it turns out. I dropped the medium and dark crystal a teeny bit as I doubt I will get as good extraction of the hop flavours as they do, will also up the additions as well to try and keep up with brewdog!
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OK, I went for it!! Will let everyone know how it turns out. I dropped the medium and dark crystal a teeny bit as I doubt I will get as good extraction of the hop flavours as they do, will also up the additions as well to try and keep up with brewdog!
How did this brew turn out? Did you mash at 62°?
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The first few were good.as expected I did not quite get the level of hoppiness but it was good. It quickly lost the hops though after a few weeks. Would do it again but up the hops next time.
Mash temp, can't remember but I assume I did mash at 62.
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