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 Post subject: Alegar or Beergar
PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 5:34 pm 
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Hello m'dears, tis me again.

Here's the querie.

I make a mulberry chocolate (with mulberries from a 400 year old tree) and have been using an alegar reduction to complement the mulberries. But I want to change from my supplier as am a little disappointed.

Soooooo..who makes it over here? Do you have any recommendations? Do any of you actually distil your own? I know that it is popular in Bavaria and Holland... but it would be nice to get some from good old Blighty.

I am in North Lincolnshire.

All Beergar/Alegar info gratefully received.

Thank you, Chocciegirl xxx


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 Post subject: Re: Alegar or Beergar
PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 6:45 pm 
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Well that's a new one to me, and I've found a definition but nothing on how to make it. So it's basically a hopped malt vinegar?


I should warn you that discussion of distillation in any way, shape or form is forbidden on this forum and will probably get deleted, even though you're asking about a distilled vinegar and not a potable spirit.

If anyone knows about this I'm guessing it could be Aleman, so stick around and someone might be able to advise.

In the meantime, welcome to the forum :cheers:


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 Post subject: Re: Alegar or Beergar
PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 1:28 am 
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seems interesting sour ale stored in a oak cask for a long time, allow the natural evapouration to reduce it, like balsamic vinegar.

I suppose you could reduce it with heat for a quicker result.

so brew a medieval ale to about 7% and and let aceto do it's stuff could be temping


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 Post subject: Re: Alegar or Beergar
PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:22 am 
Welcome to the Forum CG.
Moley's not getting at you, it's just that it's a major Forum rule!


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 Post subject: Re: Alegar or Beergar
PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 4:11 pm 
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Hello peeps!

Don't worry, I don't feel got at :). I'm not looking to distil it myself, so am not looking at tips and hints; I have enough on my plate with my little business and four children. Alegar is an Ale/Beer Vinegar, but I know you've worked that out.

You see I've drawn a bit of a blank on the whole thing and figured that if anyone would know anything then it would be yourselves. I just wondered if any of you knew who was making it and selling it commercially, or might be making it - preferably in this country, but not averse to going abroad if necessary.

My current supplier who is English is having his manufactured in South Africa, so it travels a bit! Trouble is, my current supplier has done a real primadonna on me, and I would rather not put any more money his way!

Thank you for the welcome. I should warn you that my hubby's nickname has always been Mole too :cheers:

Am off to Mary Arden's farm at the weekend for their Apple Day and Harvest Fair... apparently lots of ciders to be sampled!


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 Post subject: Re: Alegar or Beergar
PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 10:43 pm 
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No further thoughts?


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 Post subject: Re: Alegar or Beergar
PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 11:29 pm 
ChoccieGirl wrote:
No further thoughts?

I think you are a little advanced in your field, so we're all trying to play catchup!
Patience, some one some where will know!


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 Post subject: Re: Alegar or Beergar
PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 11:44 pm 
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You live and learn, never heard of it either.

I know a few members make their own cider vinegar....some intentionally :D

So give it awhile and they may be able to help

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 Post subject: Re: Alegar or Beergar
PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 11:54 pm 
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....some intentionally

What are you trying to say! :shock: :whistle:


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 Post subject: Re: Alegar or Beergar
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Busted :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Alegar or Beergar
PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 9:32 am 
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surley all you need to do is get some mother of viniger and put it into a bottle of beer and use that?
also the North Americans know it as malt vinigar so maybe a look at a US site


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 Post subject: Re: Alegar or Beergar
PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 9:48 am 
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Just a thought, but couldn't you just brew a basic beer (even a kit would work I guess) and then introduce Mother of Vinegar to it?

I tipped outa bit of some 2 year old beer from a pressure barrel t'other day. That would definately have needed diluting before you put it on your chips.

EDIT: Beaten to it!

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 Post subject: Re: Alegar or Beergar
PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 9:56 am 
jamesb wrote:
That would definately have needed diluting before you put it on your chips.

Chicken! :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Alegar or Beergar
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ericstd wrote:
jamesb wrote:
That would definately have needed diluting before you put it on your chips.

Chicken! :lol:


Pah. It made my eyes water just smelling it.

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 Post subject: Re: Alegar or Beergar
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jamesb wrote:
ericstd wrote:
jamesb wrote:
That would definately have needed diluting before you put it on your chips.

Chicken! :lol:


Pah. It made my eyes water just smelling it.


So you wouldn't roll your onions in it then? :shock:

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 Post subject: Re: Alegar or Beergar
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bishopsfinger wrote:
jamesb wrote:
Pah. It made my eyes water just smelling it.

So you wouldn't roll your onions in it then? :shock:


Is that a euphanism?

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yes sorry :oops:

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 Post subject: Re: Alegar or Beergar
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 Post subject: Re: Alegar or Beergar
PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 12:38 pm 
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Hi Choccie Girl,

Further to the "making your own" discussion, is this any use?

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f14/homebrewed-malt-vinegar-13788/


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