Sterilisation and cleaning?
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We all have different ways of doing this, i clean the bottles with hot water soon after drinking (half fill with hot water stick finger in neck and shake) for sanitising/sterilising i use Milton tablets, two tablets to a washing up bowl of water, 15 minutes contact time and no rinse.
Thanks for that. So you don't use a cleaning solution?
I'm thinking of racking in 2ltr food grade plastic bottles. I hope won't affect the taste.
I don't use cleaning solution on bottles as i keep them clean, i don't think i could do this with beer bottles but i don't make beer so its not a problem.
I used to use 1.5 litre plastic spring water bottles when i started wine making i preferred them to 2 litre bottles as the 2L bottles are a bit floppy, a 1.5 litre bottle is the same as two standard 750ml wine bottles so a handy size.
1.5 ltr is a good idea. I can use the water to make the wine. Thanks again. Any recommendations for Shiraz or Malbec kit.?I don't use cleaning solution on bottles as i keep them clean, i don't think i could do this with beer bottles but i don't make beer so its not a problem.
I used to use 1.5 litre plastic spring water bottles when i started wine making i preferred them to 2 litre bottles as the 2L bottles are a bit floppy, a 1.5 litre bottle is the same as two standard 750ml wine bottles so a handy size.
You might find something here - Wine and Cider Kit Reviews A - Z
Some members use their ovens to sanitise i prefer the speed of Milton.
Can't find any Star san in stock. Thanks
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I recently did a white wine. I asked neighbours to collect their wine bottles for me over Christmas. I used hot soapy water with a bottle brush to clean them and rinsed them well. On bottling day I sanitised them with Chem San.
I had brewed 2 beers before this, I enjoyed doing the wine. I'll leave it for a few weeks before I sample it. Good luck with your wine and enjoy.
I had brewed 2 beers before this, I enjoyed doing the wine. I'll leave it for a few weeks before I sample it. Good luck with your wine and enjoy.
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Ovens is that auto correct gone wrong
https://www.geterbrewed.com/chemipro-san-500ml/
I’m not sure what the issue was with Starsan early last year, but it appears to be gone for good. I‘ll be reloading with this pretty soon. Seems to do the same job the same way.
Ovens is that auto correct gone wrong
No they put the bottles in a cold oven switch it on set the temperature and bake them for a set time i don't know the temperature or time but i am sure someone will fill the gaps.
Found it -
From our sister site - Sanitizing Beer Bottles In The Oven
Oven
Dry heat is less effective than steam for sanitising and sterilising, but many brewers use it. The best place to do dry heat sterilisation is in your oven. To sterilise an item, refer to the following table for temperatures and times required.
Dry Heat Sterilisation
Temperature
Duration
338°F (170°C)
60 minutes
320°F (160°C)
120 minutes
302°F (150°C)
150 minutes
284°F (140°C)
180 minutes
250°F (121°C)
12 hours (Overnight)
The times indicated begin when the item has reached the indicated temperature. Although the duration seem long, remember this process kills all microorganisms, not just most as in sanitising. To be sterilised, items need to be heat-proof at the given temperatures. Glass and metal items are prime candidates for heat sterilisation.
Some home-brewers bake their bottles using this method and thus always have a supply of clean sterile bottles. The opening of the bottle can be covered with a piece of aluminium foil prior to heating to prevent contamination after cooling and during storage. They will remain sterile indefinitely if kept wrapped.
One note of caution: bottles made of soda lime glass are much more susceptible to thermal shock and breakage than those made of borosilicate glass and should be heated and cooled slowly (e.g. 5 °F per minute). You can assume all beer bottles are made of soda lime glass and that any glassware that says Pyrex or Kimax is made of borosilicate.
From our sister site - Sanitizing Beer Bottles In The Oven
Oven
Dry heat is less effective than steam for sanitising and sterilising, but many brewers use it. The best place to do dry heat sterilisation is in your oven. To sterilise an item, refer to the following table for temperatures and times required.
Dry Heat Sterilisation
Temperature
Duration
338°F (170°C)
60 minutes
320°F (160°C)
120 minutes
302°F (150°C)
150 minutes
284°F (140°C)
180 minutes
250°F (121°C)
12 hours (Overnight)
The times indicated begin when the item has reached the indicated temperature. Although the duration seem long, remember this process kills all microorganisms, not just most as in sanitising. To be sterilised, items need to be heat-proof at the given temperatures. Glass and metal items are prime candidates for heat sterilisation.
Some home-brewers bake their bottles using this method and thus always have a supply of clean sterile bottles. The opening of the bottle can be covered with a piece of aluminium foil prior to heating to prevent contamination after cooling and during storage. They will remain sterile indefinitely if kept wrapped.
One note of caution: bottles made of soda lime glass are much more susceptible to thermal shock and breakage than those made of borosilicate glass and should be heated and cooled slowly (e.g. 5 °F per minute). You can assume all beer bottles are made of soda lime glass and that any glassware that says Pyrex or Kimax is made of borosilicate.
johncrobinson
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You have nailed it chippy with this one.There is a huge difference between sanitizing and STERILIZING.
Another method could use solvent..but it would have to be something that dried without leaving it smelling like you've been cleaning paint brushes..
Bought one last year and a goo d investment for FV's and inside HERMS coil and for general stubborn to shift stuff.
Hmmm didnt work out so well with my PET bottles?!
johncrobinson
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The point is Manners commercial brewery's are not obligated to reuse spent bottles. In the old glass bottle days they did wherever possible reuse the bottles and kids of the time used to collect the bottles for pocket money.
In today's throwaway PLASTIC society despite green issues being more politically potent than ever before.We are in fact far.far less green than our ww2 forefathers.
In today's throwaway PLASTIC society despite green issues being more politically potent than ever before.We are in fact far.far less green than our ww2 forefathers.
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