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Is the main beef with Boris Johnson that he lied about the party during COVID or is there a bit more/much more? I don't follow our politics or yours so take the question that way.
From what I've absorbed here, Johnson doesn't seem as bad as our 45th. When I was paying attention, the difference seems to be that Johnson got caught and so admitted it (not admirable but just a survival response.). You could never get our previous president to admit to a lie or wrongdoing even when there was film or pictures of it.
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…… but there is no way your guy, Boris, can ever compare to our crazy criminal. …
As far as I am aware, yours wasn’t convicted of a criminal act whilst he was still in office; whereas Boris was fined for committing an offence that he himself instigated!

I think that’s checkmate to me?
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I admire that you all have higher standards.
Don’t be daft now!

Boris is still there doing damage; yours only wishes he was!
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More seriously, the British people (and the American people) deserve someone better than these grasping fools. What Trump and Johnson do have in common is that they have never in their entire lives thought about anything else than their own personal advancement.
 
One of the problems is that he is allowed to repeat time and time again things that are not true, (in another age 'lies') and not challenged , become to be seen to be the truth.
The sooner he is out...
Indeed - Boris is a serial liar and has lost jobs before because he can’t tell the truth.
I just wonder how we got to be in this state in the first place…
 
Because Labour havent had what it takes to get them out, if they don't this time we are screwed.
 
It's not just Partygate Johnson has left a trail of lies and deceit from day 1. We have had to put up with lie after lie slogan after slogan and a complete lack of morals from him. His own MPs know his past and as long has they see him as a vote winner they will ride the same train has him. They had their chance to sack him but some spineless toads didn't make the move they just lap him up and think he will fluff his hair up and turn back into the clown he used to be. But him and his stooges have made a complete shambles and now we are paying the price of his lack of knowledge on how to govern a country. It's not entirely his fault but it rests on the cabinet which is full of corrupt people and hopeless politicians. It will be interesting to see at the next election what slogan he comes out with as he can't use the one saying labour will take us back to the 70s with strikes high inflation and high prices in the shops cos that's where we are at now.
The man has got to go either with help from his enemies at Westminster or the public see what he is trying to hide from us.
 
Boris is still there doing damage; yours only wishes he was!
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My comments were all friendly discourse, of course.
On a serious note, 45 is still pushing election fraud in '20 as why he didn't win regardless of the states in which he said it occurred confirming there wasn't any. Politicians on the right are following his lead and instilling uncertainty about our voting system.
 
But him and his stooges have made a complete shambles and now we are paying the price of his lack of knowledge on how to govern a country.

It would appear you are out of touch with how Tory supporters view how Boris has run the country i listen to 5 live most of the day in my truck and whenever a debate starts about how he has coped with covid, party-gate etc his supporters queue up to have their say, very few Tories supporters phone in to complain about his record and want his head on a spike yet his haters seems to think he is a dead man walking i think and hope (as i have said previously) they are wrong.
 
So you don't think the British public can see what has gone on for themselves and are blindly going to vote Tory again whoever is the PM?
When the media publish stories about opposition parties then the barrage from the press is relentless then unfortunately some of it sticks. Recent history is littered with media articles about opposition leaders from the way Ed Miliband ate a sandwich to the assassination of Corbyn on many levels. Although I wasn't a massive fan of Corbyn the way the press demonised him was awful. The press can use a number of tactics from pushing out and out lies to ignoring and not reporting the truth. What ever happened to the investigation of Islamaphobia the Tories were having, but the anti semetic stories always featured on the front page. People will ultimately make their own minds up but when the media industry is controlled by a handful of multi millionaires nobody can say they don't deliberately influence the vote.
 
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AOL, bless ‘em, have published the “UK Tax Burden” issued by the “Office for Budget Responsibility”.

We all “know” that the Conservatives beat Labour into a cocked-hat when it comes to ‘Tax and Spend’; because the UK media tell us so!

In view of this, I was intrigued by the following:

“During the Conservative
governments of 1979-97 the tax
burden peaked at 34.1%, while
during the Labour governments of
1997-2010 it peaked at 33.6%.”

Fancy that: and here I was tempted into believing the right-wing media!
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People will ultimately make their own minds up but when the media industry is controlled by a handful of multi millionaires nobody can say they don't deliberately influence the vote.

You are entitled to you view mine is the majority of people are so ****** off with politics in general that i doubt they even bother to read or listen to it and it doesn't sway their vote either way on the day.
 
You are entitled to you view mine is the majority of people are so ****** off with politics in general that i doubt they even bother to read or listen to it and it doesn't sway their vote either way on the day.
Your view is also respected. All of a sudden at work my colleagues are talking more about politics than I have heard I'm the past. Mostly anti Tory, I am hoping that people are taking more notice now than before as when we are hit in the pocket we seem to be more aware of what's going on.
 
Your view is also respected. All of a sudden at work my colleagues are talking more about politics than I have heard I'm the past. Mostly anti Tory, I am hoping that people are taking more notice now than before as when we are hit in the pocket we seem to be more aware of what's going on.

The problem as discussed today on 5 live is people are talking about party-gate the confidence votes and all the **** that is going on at the moment which in six months will be old news and forgotten and if Starmer doesn't get his **** together and make Labour electable the Tories will get in again.
Labour are making little headway this poll shows the last six months surely the gap should be much wider with the mess Boris has made of things.


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The problem as discussed today on 5 live is people are talking about party-gate the confidence votes and all the **** that is going on at the moment which in six months will be old news and forgotten and if Starmer doesn't get his **** together and make Labour electable the Tories will get in again.
Labour are making little headway this poll shows the last six months surely the gap should be much wider with the mess Boris has made of things.


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Media manipulation?
 
Media manipulation?

Really, Boris has been hung out to dry by the press accused of lying over party-gate and then receiving a fine for his part in it yet the poll results have hardly altered over the last six months, Labour don't seem to be capitalising on the bad situation Boris has got himself into, Starmer should have crucified him in PMQs but Boris always seems to come out on top he could fall into a bucket of s**t and come out smelling of roses, one member here has said in the thread he doesn't want Labour to win the next election, i am making the prediction that if Starmer is still leader when the next election comes round he has nothing to worry about, i hope i am wrong.


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