T.V Licence - Up to 3.7 million pensioners will now have to pay for it.

[GerritT]

We will never have adverts on the BBC so we will continue to pay and those that can afford it should pay is it any more fair that a person over 75 on pension credit is entitled to a free licence when an out of work parent one benefit isn't?

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No, so embed the fee in the income taxes: low incomes pay a few pounds a month, high incomes 10 or 20 pounds per month. And no more licensing fee.
Yes, double income families get to pay double, but they might be able to afford it more don't they?

God I still can't believe I didn't get 'socialist' on that test.

 

[Gunge]

(you know who you are and its not Gunge for a change)

Shucks! But it's not just OAPs, pension credit or no, who are being shafted. Is the BBC immune to competition or summat, and in theory would still get the licence fee if it had no viewers, as by any sane account it shouldn't have?

 

[MyQul]

But do those ads interfere with your television experience? And do you somehow pay for those papers anyway already? That's the thing with the Beeb: you're already paying, and you want ads over that?

Are people suggesting scrapping the licence and having adverts instead or having BOTH the liscence and adverts. The first I'd be quite happy with, the second not so much

 

[Chippy_Tea]

That's the thing with the Beeb: you're already paying, and you want ads over that?

No we want adverts instead of paying.

 

[SmallSpacesBrewing]

In Norway we pay CA 140 pounds (1400kr) twice a year per household for a obligatory TV license. This is just for owning up to 4 tvs per household. Doesn't matter if you have it connected to the antenna. Everyone has to pay. All this for two crappy state channels advert free. It sucks! And if you fail to pay you go straight to what I like to call the super bill, an extra 30 pounds for each time you don't pay. So....

 

[terrym]

I agree and would be happy if they used adverts rather than us having to pay the fee.

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And why was the remainder of my post moderated? It was relevant to what I said in the part that was allowed to remain. I said nothing that contravenes any of the Forum rules. That's two posts at least on this thread which have been 'moderated' . There's little point in joining in if your views are edited out. And what's the point of starting a debate if people cant express their views within the Forum rules of engagement

 

[Chippy_Tea]

I said this in another thread i don't think £12:50 per month is a rip off even though i don't watch a lot of BBC stuff on the telly (SWMBO definitely gets her monies worth) i do listen to the radio a lot (many hours a day) and as i loath commercial radio its BBC every time.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

And why was the remainder of my post moderated? It was relevant to what I said in the part that was allowed to remain. I said nothing that contravenes any of the Forum rules. That's two posts at least on this thread which have been 'moderated' . There's little point in joining in if your views are edited out. And what's the point of starting a debate if people cant express their views within the Forum rules of engagement

The subject of the thread was to discuss whether it is fair for the BBC to "scrap blanket free licences for over-75's, but those households with one person who receives pension credit will still be eligible" i cannot remember what you posted but i don't delete parts of posts just for the sake of it i was trying to keep it on topic, i have now given up on this one.

That's two posts at least on this thread which have been 'moderated'

I explained the reason for the other earlier.
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[GerritT]

In Norway we pay CA 140 pounds (1400kr) twice a year per household for a obligatory TV license. This is just for owning up to 4 tvs per household. Doesn't matter if you have it connected to the antenna. Everyone has to pay. All this for two crappy state channels advert free. It sucks! And if you fail to pay you go straight to what I like to call the super bill, an extra 30 pounds for each time you don't pay. So....

I feel you. We pay 1% of the lower income tax scale extra special for the public television AND we get adverts. Inbetween shitty programs.

 

[Clint]

Perhaps if there's a fee for all it should be means tested but to say it's free then change your mind is a dirty,money grabbing,low life trick.
Fair enough some can afford it,some can't...like those bus passes but the criteria was reaching a certain age not how big your bank balance is plus who last sat by Mick Jagger or Richard Branson on the bus??
As for adverts to pay it....yes bring em on...lots of but it won't make a difference because they'll take the ad fees and the licence fees. But then regards to ads there's loads who will gladly pay to walk around in a football shirt or the like...
Perhaps the pensions should not pay and see if they get jailed...I doubt it.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

Twatter at its best.

 

[Clint]

BBC
BIGBASTARDSCLUB

 

[GerritT]

BBC
BIGBASTARDSCLUB

I'm sorry but I have to ask you to stop it there Clint.
They're not worse than any other country with public broadcasting.

 

[marshbrewer]

What I did not understand is why don't they just encrypt the BBC's TV channels, and you pay for a decrypt card instead of a license? No freeloaders (wouldn't be possible) and scrap the whole costly license evasion / capita infrastructure. Those who don't watch, needn't pay. Simple.

 

[Richie_asg1]

Last time I checked it was "The BBC Plc" - so is not a government body and therefore cannot charge a tax. All it can do is "prevent theft" - by people tuning in for free, or prove theft. - It is a rather tenuous case anyway as how can you deliver items through the door of everyone in the street and claim it is is theft if someone looks at them?

But as a PLC it should have shares - which are freely available to purchase. It also has shareholder meetings at which discussions are voted on for example whether to charge a fee or not, and are decided by a majority of shareholders. - or they can vote out the management.
.....All it would take is for the public to buy those shares and vote together to abolish the licence.
Winging over and Job done.

 

[Lawrence22]

Just allow them to advertise between programmes and once every half hour in longer programmes. We accept it from all other channels.

 

[Leon103]

And why was the remainder of my post moderated? It was relevant to what I said in the part that was allowed to remain. I said nothing that contravenes any of the Forum rules. That's two posts at least on this thread which have been 'moderated' . There's little point in joining in if your views are edited out. And what's the point of starting a debate if people cant express their views within the Forum rules of engagement

Worse than the government and the BBC are this lot...........

 

[Benfleet Brewery]

No we want adverts instead of paying.

Too right. I never watch anything live these days anyway. If I want to watch something I set it to be recorded and just skip through them if it’s a non BBC show. Simples.

 

[110ben]

As a pensioner here is my twopenneth worth.
We are only talking three quid a week here which covers both tv and radio.
I for one think that is good value and am happy to pay. The vast majority of the grey brigade wouldn't miss the three quid and so should pay. Anyone struggling with that amount should be free.
I think the new system is fairer.

 

[Justin Dean]

trust me, you don't want adverts. You'll rather want a 'pay as affordable' model. Top income? top payer. Low income? Near free.

Sorry, What is top income? what is low income ? Under 25k, more than 50K? What is the middle ground? Half the fee?

I think the BBC should look to their own house and become more efficient rather than grubbing around for the opportunities for more income.