The Coronavirus thread.

[Chippy_Tea]

Self-employed workers facing financial difficulties as a result of coronavirus are set to be offered a package of support from the government.

Chancellor Rishi Sunak will unveil the measures later.

He set out plans for 80% wage subsidies for staff kept on by employers last week - and the PM has said he wants similar protection for freelancers.

However, Boris Johnson added he could not promise the UK would beat the virus "without any kind of hardship at all".

The total number of people in the UK to die with Covid-19, the disease caused by coronavirus, has reached 475.

Mr Sunak said last week that the government would cover wages of up to £2,500 a month for staff being kept on by their employer, as part of "unprecedented" measures to prevent workers being laid off.

The chancellor later said drawing up plans to help self-employed people had proved "incredibly complicated".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52044542

 

[MyQul]

There is no indication that it was caught from eating animals from a market.

I wonder where it came from then?

 

[MmmBeer]

Although these markets are real (my friend lived in Wuhan). I don't think it actually works like that.

The WHO monitor viruses in animals, most viruses just stay animal - animal. Some mutate and jump from animal to human. What makes CORVID 19 special is at an extremely fast speed it mutated from animal to human, to human to human. There is no indication that it was caught from eating animals from a market.

I think the rumour about the virus eminating from a bat was based on the Sars outbreak a few years back, which is believed to have jumped from a bat to a civet and then onto humans in China. I have seen no evidence linking Covid 19 to bats and wouldn't expect a definitive proof for several months, if not years.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

How did Covid-19 start?

The disease appears to have originated from a Wuhan seafood market where wild animals, including marmots, birds, rabbits, bats and snakes, are traded illegally. Coronaviruses are known to jump from animals to humans, so it’s thought that the first people infected with the disease – a group primarily made up of stallholders from the seafood market – contracted it from contact with animals.

The hunt for the animal source of Covid-19 is still unknown, although there are some strong contendors. A team of virologists at the Wuhan Institute for Virology released a detailed paper showing that the new coronaviruses' genetic makeup is 96 per cent identical to that of a coronavirus found in bats, while an as-yet unpublished study argues that genetic sequences of coronavirus in pangolins are 99 per cent similar to the human virus. Some early cases of Covid-19, however, appear to have inflicted people with no link to the Wuhan market at all, suggesting that the initial route of human infection may pre-date the market cases.

The Wuhan market was shut down for inspection and cleaning on January 1, but by then it appears that Covid-19 was already starting to spread beyond the market itself. On January 21, the WHO Western Pacific office said the disease was also being transmitted between humans – evidence of which is apparent after medical staff became infected with the virus. Since then, evidence of widespread human-to-human transmission outside of China has been well established, making chances of containing the virus much harder.


https://www.wired.co.uk/article/china-coronavirus

 

[BrewRubha]

A big "THANK YOU" to the 170,000 people who have stepped forward in response to a Government plea for volunteers to assist the NHS. You all have my admiration and best wishes.

My own first feelings were ones of guilt that, despite being classed as "vulnerable persons", my wife and I were not in a position to volunteer because we chose over a week ago to "self isolate"!

However, on reflection, we are assisting the NHS by making an attempt to not catch the Covid-19 virus.

If we succeed in avoiding the infection, we will avoid the need for an ambulance, a hospital bed, possibly a ventilator and all of the nursing care and attention that would accompany these things.

Again, the people who have volunteered have my greatest admiration, but please don't feel guilty if you have decided to "self isolate" and cannot volunteer.

You are helping the NHS if you manage to avoid infection by the Covid-19 virus so "Good Luck in your endeavours."

My daughter is a 2nd year student nurse and she is working night and day as a home carer volunteer. I am so proud of her and her efforts for our community! In these times we see the best and worst of humanity!

 

[Cwrw666]

He set out plans for 80% wage subsidies for staff kept on by employers last week - and the PM has said he wants similar protection for freelancers.

I've been running at a loss for years - does that mean I'll have to pay the government 80% of it ?

 

[MyQul]

I've been running at a loss for years - does that mean I'll have to pay the government 80% of it ?

Shhh!!! Dont give em ideas!

 

[cushyno]

Appeal to save beer in Czech Republic
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-52044452

 

[BrewRubha]

I've been running at a loss for years - does that mean I'll have to pay the government 80% of it ?

Yes

 

[BrewRubha]

Please have some respect for our freelance brothers and sisters at this time. I was freelance up until 4 years ago. I understand their pain at the moment...no work...no income and tax and VAT bills on the horizon! Even the tax holiday just delays the pain.....Please know I am thinking of you!

 

[MyQul]

Please have some respect for our freelance brothers and sisters at this time. I was freelance up until 4 years ago. I understand their pain at the moment...no work...no income and tax and VAT bills on the horizon! Even the tax holiday just delays the pain.....Please know I am thinking of you!

Rishi Ballsak is making an anouncement on self employed this arvo

 

[BrewRubha]

Rishi Ballsak is making an anouncement on self employed this arvo

yes I am...and if I am Rishi Ballsack so be it.

 

[simon12]

As for where the virus started many have pointed out though many animals are butchered in an unhygienic way there bats are not any type of speciality and the nearest wild population is 600 miles away and people there claim bats were never for sale. While the Wohan institute of virology is a few hundred meters away and are known to do research on bat virus here is a quote from there website (translated by google translate) from here 武汉病毒研究所周鹏学科组博士后招聘启事
"Peng Zhou, Ph.D., Researcher, Wuhan Institute of Virology, Chinese Academy of Sciences, and Leader of Bat Virus Infection and Immunization. He received his PhD in Wuhan Virus Research Institute in 2010 and has worked on bat virus and immunology in Australia and Singapore. In 2009 , he took the lead in starting the research on the immune mechanism of bat long-term carrying and transmitting virus in the world. So far, he has published more than 30 SCI articles, including the first and corresponding author's Nature , Cell Host Microbe and PNAS . At present, research on bat virus and immunology is continuing, and it has received support from the National Excellent Youth Fund, the Pilot Project of the Chinese Academy of Sciences, and the Major Project of the Ministry of Science and Technology."

 

[BrewRubha]

yes I am...and if I am Rishi Ballsack so be it.

what the hell is an avro?

 

[Chippy_Tea]

Rishi Ballsak is making an anouncement on self employed this arvo

yes I am...and if I am Rishi Ballsack so be it.

 

[Chippy_Tea]

what the hell is an avro?

Its ARVO not avro and it means Afternoon.

 

[BrewRubha]

As for where the virus started many have pointed out though many animals are butchered in an unhygienic way there bats are not any type of speciality and the nearest wild population is 600 miles away and people there claim bats were never for sale. While the Wohan institute of virology is a few hundred meters away and are known to do research on bat virus here is a quote from there website (translated by google translate) from here 武汉病毒研究所周鹏学科组博士后招聘启事
"Peng Zhou, Ph.D., Researcher, Wuhan Institute of Virology, Chinese Academy of Sciences, and Leader of Bat Virus Infection and Immunization. He received his PhD in Wuhan Virus Research Institute in 2010 and has worked on bat virus and immunology in Australia and Singapore. In 2009 , he took the lead in starting the research on the immune mechanism of bat long-term carrying and transmitting virus in the world. So far, he has published more than 30 SCI articles, including the first and corresponding author's Nature , Cell Host Microbe and PNAS . At present, research on bat virus and immunology is continuing, and it has received support from the National Excellent Youth Fund, the Pilot Project of the Chinese Academy of Sciences, and the Major Project of the Ministry of Science and Technology."

WHAT

 

[MyQul]

yes I am...and if I am Rishi Ballsack so be it.

To decode my previous post. The chancellor is make an announcement on the self employed situation this afternoon (apparently)

 

[Chippy_Tea]

To decode my previous post. The chancellor is make an announcement on the self employed situation this afternoon (apparently)

I thought it was plain enough as it was

 

[Chippy_Tea]

Do you want to have a go at this one.

Rishi Ballsak is making an anouncement on self employed this arvo

yes I am...and if I am Rishi Ballsack so be it.