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So has all this came from Chinese hygiene !
My hairdresser went to China on a tour last year, the guide said to her “if I say to you this is a clean toilet your best to make this your toilet stop”
Has the Chinese economy flourished from there export markets and cheap products ?
So who should pay, You and Me ??
Why not add extra taxes onto Chinese imported products to help ??
Hang on Aldaviz. I've certainly not got an axe to grind in favour of the Chinese flooding the world with their junk (as well as their good stuff) but this business of BoJo, Gove, Trump et al blaming the Chinese is another example of smoke and mirrors. We (the UK) had plenty of time to take precautions, to test, to accept offers for ventilators from the EU and from UK manufacturers. We saw what was going on in China, we saw what happened in Italy. Why were we the last to react? Why are we still not reacting effectively?
You said "who should pay. You and Me??" but if we put taxes on Chinese imports, it's you and me who'll be paying them! In fact I'm in favour of a bit of modest protectionism, but let's not use this to deflect the blame from where it truly belongs.
 
The Chinese are as capable as any country. They have landed a rover on the Moon. Sure, they can make and sell shoddy goods but they also make world-class stuff. I'm happy to risk my life standing next to a Chinese-made ship's boiler if it's certified to international TRACEABLE standards.
 
Looks like this fellow had roughly the same start as Bevvied but unlike Bevvied later his lungs couldn't cope so he needed hospital treatment, i would be a stubborn sod like him (hate hospitals) so this has been a bit of an eye opener.

Mr Boyle said he wanted to tell other people - particularly men - not to "soldier on".


A man who ended up in intensive care with coronavirus has pleaded with others - particularly men - not to "soldier on" if they are seriously ill.

Stewart Boyle, from Sussex, had been ill for about 10 days when his wife and daughters called NHS 111.

The 64-year-old was in an ambulance in an hour and made it to hospital "in the nick of time".

He is now recuperating at home but said there were a few hours when it was "touch and go".

Mr Boyle, who lives near Lewes, said he was one of 15 people who caught the virus at a community choir, even though they kept their distance. Within three days they all had symptoms.

He had been in good health and said his illness was like normal flu for the first five or six days, before he was overwhelmed with a "deep fatigue" and his lungs were unable to cope.

He said after 10 days he was too ill decide what he should do but his family could hear his shortness of breath.

In respiratory intensive care at hospital in Haywards Heath, Mr Boyle was given treatment including oxygen and antibiotics by "absolutely fantastic" staff.

But he added: "There were certainly three or four hours when it was touch and go."

Mr Boyle said he wanted to tell other people - particularly men - not to "soldier on".

He said: "There's a certain point where, if it's not going away, and for me it was day 10, you need to ask for help.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-52092236
 
Cheers.
I don't think I'll be brewing for a while, still exhausted and breathing is laboured to say the least, but I'm no longer at the worried stage.
Just to stop being worried about it will mean the stress is gone and that will aid your recovery. I know what it's like to worry that you are on a downward spiral and might not have time to seek help. Cheers in every sense! acheers.clapaclapa
 
Well I got put on the government scheme today at work until at least the end of may. So I'm not even working from home now, just stuck at home. I'm going to have to crack on and get brewing.
It’s not a good situation for anyone ! I wish everyone stays well
 
A man has pleaded guilty to breaching coronavirus social distancing rules by repeatedly approaching people in a supermarket queue.

Steven Mackie, 53, was arrested after getting too close to shoppers outside Tesco in Stalybridge on Saturday.

He is thought to be the first person to be charged in the UK since the new restrictions came into force.

At Stockport Magistrates' Court, Mackie was fined £635 after he admitted failing to maintain public health.

Police said Mackie, of Stamford Street, Stalybridge, was "unnecessarily out of his home" and had "continued to approach people contrary to social distancing rules" despite advice from officers.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-52089290
 
So what i am hearing and reading is thus goes on for longer than 7 days. To be to rethink the self isolate for 7 days thing then.
 
So what i am hearing and reading is thus goes on for longer than 7 days. To be to rethink the self isolate for 7 days thing then.

Er ... not if you are a "Royal"!

Apparently, the virus gives Royals a dispensation so that, like Charlie Boy, they can isolate themselves for only seven days and then go out and mix with the peasants.

One presumes that this is because it doesn't matter if a few peasants catch the infection from you. They are probably expected to be grateful that they have been given anything!
 
Something good to come out of this Brighthouse go into administration -


At last, it’s payback time for BrightHouse

For hard-pressed families wanting household goods, the monthly payments at electricals store BrightHouse can be tempting. But extraordinary interest payments can mean a £600 computer at Currys costs more than £2,000 at BrightHouse, while an easy-looking £7.50-a-month TV spirals into a bill of £1,100.

Lisa Brady, 30, who lives in Hamilton, Scotland, and has four children, is typical of the company’s customers, often young single mums. She tells Guardian Money: “I’m on benefits and it has been my lifeline, but the payments are just shocking.”

She went to BrightHouse to buy her autistic son a computer which, she said, would have cost about £600 at Currys. But with repayments, that turned into £2,287 over 26 months. “My advice to other mums is to look about first, avoid BrightHouse,” she says.

This week BrightHouse was ordered to repay £14.8m to nearly 250,000 customers after the Financial Conduct Authority found it had not been a “responsible lender”. The regulator said that, in many cases, BrightHouse had not properly assessed a customer’s ability to repay – and they would now be compensated.

The weekly payments advertised in big letters throughout the stores appear affordable – £7.50 for a Beko steel cooker or a Baird 43-inch UHD smart TV. But the small print underneath reveals that the cooker costs £1,132.50 at an APR of 69.9% over 151 weeks, including a £95 delivery and installation fee; the TV £1,170 over three years.

Laura Hutchison, who lives with her daughter Ellie in Galston, Scotland, and is on benefits, was paying off an L-shaped sofa from BrightHouse over several years but, she says, only managed £1,800 out of £2,500, so never ended up owning it. She reckons it would have cost £500-600 on the high street. “I’d never buy anything from BrightHouse again,” she says.

She has since found Fair For You, a not-for-profit credit provider that funds household goods. Hutchison has bought a bunk bed, double bed and vacuum cleaner and says it took no more than six months to pay off an item. “They cost £20 or £30 more than a high street shop.” BrightHouse is keen to stress that items in the store can be bought for less if they are paid off more quickly.

Despite these sky-high costs, many say it can be the only way to get the sort of electrical goods they want. When we visited its Elephant & Castle shop in south London, several customers told us the weekly payments were affordable and convenient.

Pauline and David Heat, a retired couple, come in every Thursday to make their weekly payment of £116.92, to pay off eight items, including a sofa, freezer, vacuum cleaner and two TVs. David gets monthly pension payments of £859 while his wife receives £578.

Isata Sillah, who works in a nursing home, has paid off 23 items over 15 years, and is now paying £35 a week for a sofa and a Nintendo games console. “It’s easy to pay weekly,” she says.

But “rent to own” providers remain deeply controversial. An all-party parliamentary group on debt and personal finance, which conducted an inquiry two years ago, found customers easily pay three times as much as the high street, and many never even get to own the goods as they fall into arrears.

Around 400,000 households use it and have amassed debts of £500m. They have an average annual income of £16,100 and are likely to have other high-cost debt.

The typical rent-to-own customer is a young single mother who lives in social or private rented accommodation and is wholly or partly reliant on benefits, according to a 2016 report by the Financial Inclusion Centre thinktank.

Gareth Evans, co-director of the thinktank, says: “We are talking about the poorest and most vulnerable of society. The threat of having essential household goods repossessed when they may have already made many months or even years worth of payments can often lead to users prioritising these repayments over food or other priority bills.”

The compensation scheme at BrightHouse comes after the firm was forced to introduce stricter affordability checks. It lost 44,000 customers, closed 29 stores and racked up an £111,000 loss in the year to March.

BrightHouse said it has introduced more flexible repayment terms and made its own insurance and repair cover non-mandatory. A spokesman for BrightHouse said: “We seek to offer choice and give respect to people who are excluded from mainstream credit. As long as it’s affordable and people are making an informed decision they should be allowed to choose how to spend their money.”
 
Another prediction
After all this corona is over a lot of businesses will realise that they do not need such big office blocks if at all as people are working from home.
All these commercial landlords will find they have so many properties on their hands and they will struggle to keep going even TV shows will never be the same as big studio set ups may not be needed as video links to presenters homes may be more frequent and radio as Chippy has said with is it 5 Live?
The world will be evolving after this
 
Something good to come out of this Brighthouse go into administration -


At last, it’s payback time for BrightHouse

For hard-pressed families wanting household goods, the monthly payments at electricals store BrightHouse can be tempting. But extraordinary interest payments can mean a £600 computer at Currys costs more than £2,000 at BrightHouse, while an easy-looking £7.50-a-month TV spirals into a bill of £1,100.

Lisa Brady, 30, who lives in Hamilton, Scotland, and has four children, is typical of the company’s customers, often young single mums. She tells Guardian Money: “I’m on benefits and it has been my lifeline, but the payments are just shocking.”

She went to BrightHouse to buy her autistic son a computer which, she said, would have cost about £600 at Currys. But with repayments, that turned into £2,287 over 26 months. “My advice to other mums is to look about first, avoid BrightHouse,” she says.

This week BrightHouse was ordered to repay £14.8m to nearly 250,000 customers after the Financial Conduct Authority found it had not been a “responsible lender”. The regulator said that, in many cases, BrightHouse had not properly assessed a customer’s ability to repay – and they would now be compensated.

The weekly payments advertised in big letters throughout the stores appear affordable – £7.50 for a Beko steel cooker or a Baird 43-inch UHD smart TV. But the small print underneath reveals that the cooker costs £1,132.50 at an APR of 69.9% over 151 weeks, including a £95 delivery and installation fee; the TV £1,170 over three years.

Laura Hutchison, who lives with her daughter Ellie in Galston, Scotland, and is on benefits, was paying off an L-shaped sofa from BrightHouse over several years but, she says, only managed £1,800 out of £2,500, so never ended up owning it. She reckons it would have cost £500-600 on the high street. “I’d never buy anything from BrightHouse again,” she says.

She has since found Fair For You, a not-for-profit credit provider that funds household goods. Hutchison has bought a bunk bed, double bed and vacuum cleaner and says it took no more than six months to pay off an item. “They cost £20 or £30 more than a high street shop.” BrightHouse is keen to stress that items in the store can be bought for less if they are paid off more quickly.

Despite these sky-high costs, many say it can be the only way to get the sort of electrical goods they want. When we visited its Elephant & Castle shop in south London, several customers told us the weekly payments were affordable and convenient.

Pauline and David Heat, a retired couple, come in every Thursday to make their weekly payment of £116.92, to pay off eight items, including a sofa, freezer, vacuum cleaner and two TVs. David gets monthly pension payments of £859 while his wife receives £578.

Isata Sillah, who works in a nursing home, has paid off 23 items over 15 years, and is now paying £35 a week for a sofa and a Nintendo games console. “It’s easy to pay weekly,” she says.

But “rent to own” providers remain deeply controversial. An all-party parliamentary group on debt and personal finance, which conducted an inquiry two years ago, found customers easily pay three times as much as the high street, and many never even get to own the goods as they fall into arrears.

Around 400,000 households use it and have amassed debts of £500m. They have an average annual income of £16,100 and are likely to have other high-cost debt.

The typical rent-to-own customer is a young single mother who lives in social or private rented accommodation and is wholly or partly reliant on benefits, according to a 2016 report by the Financial Inclusion Centre thinktank.

Gareth Evans, co-director of the thinktank, says: “We are talking about the poorest and most vulnerable of society. The threat of having essential household goods repossessed when they may have already made many months or even years worth of payments can often lead to users prioritising these repayments over food or other priority bills.”

The compensation scheme at BrightHouse comes after the firm was forced to introduce stricter affordability checks. It lost 44,000 customers, closed 29 stores and racked up an £111,000 loss in the year to March.

BrightHouse said it has introduced more flexible repayment terms and made its own insurance and repair cover non-mandatory. A spokesman for BrightHouse said: “We seek to offer choice and give respect to people who are excluded from mainstream credit. As long as it’s affordable and people are making an informed decision they should be allowed to choose how to spend their money.”

Scum! The biter bit.

I also note carluccio's is going into adminstration but I think they were in trouble anyway. I think these will be just the first of a cascade of companies that go under. Especially as a recession is predicted hot on the heals of the C-19 crisis
 
Unfortunately or maybe fortunately I am not too sure the World will be in recession and maybe everybody will be in the same boat(that's why I said maybe fortunately) it may help us to open up trade deals and much quicker, only time will tell
 
Another prediction
After all this corona is over a lot of businesses will realise that they do not need such big office blocks if at all as people are working from home.
All these commercial landlords will find they have so many properties on their hands and they will struggle to keep going even TV shows will never be the same as big studio set ups may not be needed as video links to presenters homes may be more frequent and radio as Chippy has said with is it 5 Live?
The world will be evolving after this

Rant warning -

It annoys me when you watch breakfast news you have the two main presenters usually Charlie and Louis then you have Sally doing the sport and Carol doing the weather, why do you need two people simultaneously reading the same article from the auto-queue, are they not able to do the sport as well, as for the weather do you really need someone standing in front of a map showing whats going to happen in the next 24 hours just put a picture on the screen we don't need to have it explained and we all have weather apps on our phones.

Do they really need all these people to bring us the news?


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Unfortunately or maybe fortunately I am not too sure the World will be in recession and maybe everybody will be in the same boat(that's why I said maybe fortunately) it may help us to open up trade deals and much quicker, only time will tell

I dont know that much about economics but I've been reading pieces that the virus will tip Britian, if not the world into recession. Even not knowing much about economics it looks like Trump has got it spectacularly wrong with his response to the virus. They do say when America sneezes the rest of the world gets a cold (or coronavirus)
 

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