Cheshire Cat
Landlord.
Thanks Ronne but I'll avoid low alcohol beers, I bought the Firm and want to use it on an English bitter at about 4.5% ABV.
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I'd like to give "The Firm" a go, for the lower attenuation qualities now I'm brewing to lower ABV (~3%). I'm slightly wary as previously I've tried MJ M15 (which is similarly supposed to be Windsor) which has twice resulted in gushers!
Bought 2 packs of 'the firm' this week, am going to use it in my next bitter using Bobek and Fuggles. 
Cheshire Cat
Landlord.
Bought but not used yet.
Only just read this.From Crossmyloof's Facebook group;
'I've been told I need to tell people we've taken hold of two new beer yeasts before I get too merry - hic! 'Flushed Nun' - An Abbey Ale yeast and 'The Firm' - a Full Bodied English. After a test brew or two, and enjoying as we speak, I can confirm Friday afternoon's not looking too badOnce I'm a bit more sober we'll do some kind of giveaway competition too. Probably early next week. Let's hope the weather holds for the weekend and enjoy whatever you're up to. The CML Brew team'
The Firm.... i.e. the Queen... Windsor!!! Yay!!! Been waiting for this for ages. Don't know what Flushed Nun will be. Cant wait to try this, I've always said CML were missing a Windsor / Empire / London type of dry yeast in their line up. Eeeeekkk! Quite excited. If its a decent price, co-pitching with Wilko Notty could be just what I'm after.
Could 'Flushed Nun' be a risqué nod in the direction of Shepherd Neame's Bishop's Finger? Locally nicknamed Nun's Delight. They also brew/ed a weaker bottled pale ale named Abbey Ale.
Just a thought.
I'd appreciate thoughts and any experience on 'The Firm' yeast since I'm looking to get my Christmas ale on next weekend and have some of this in the fridge. I'd ideally use Wyeast 1968 London ESB, or lallemand London ESB, but wondered whether the Firm yeast would be a close enough match? Thanks.
I'll be bottling my oatmeal stout this week which I used Firm yeast in, also have just brewed a christmas old ale with it but that's still going like the clappers in the fv. I'll let you know how it goes.
Cheshire Cat
Landlord.
What attenuation have been getting with it?
Cheshire Cat
Landlord.
Ronnie
I finally made an APA using Clipper yeast and it gave an attenuation of 92% which is incredible. However floculation is pretty poor with floating trub.
Cheshire Cat
Landlord.
Did you bottle the stout and what attenuation did you get?Dunno yet, i'll bottle the oatmeal stout this week and let you know.
Ahh yes, sorry forgot to come back here, it went from 1055 to 1016, 70% attenuation. I did have to give it a warm up and swoosh around at 2 weeks as it had only got to 1020, another week saw it drop another 4 points.
Flocculation good, beers nice and clear.
Also did fermented the old ale with cml firm and that dropped from 1066 to 1020, attenuation 69%.
Also did fermented the old ale with cml firm and that dropped from 1066 to 1020, attenuation 69%.
For my latest brew I've tried CML Monk as it's supposed to be something vaguely belgian. Dropped from 1039 to 1004, with an apparent attenuation of 89% Means its come out rather stronger (4.6%) than intended (~3.8%). Bottling tomorrow so will be drinking about Christmas :)
Interesting! I spoke to Steven about this yeast today and he said it's similar to London Ale III, so I've ordered some for a New England Pale I plan to make.
Has anyone else used Clipper?
Looks like two more have appeared on the site; "Atlantic" and "House".
Cheshire Cat
Landlord.
Yes very impressive i got 81% attenuation.
Has anyone tried the new Atlantic and House yeasts?
I emailed CML about House, and apparently it's very much like S-33 (which, coincidentally forms part of my house yeast blend; they must have known!)
They said they didn't know what Atlantic was equivalent too, but said " It’s a bit like US05, but a tad sweeter on the finish. So it won’t attenuate quite so high.". They also said that although they thought House was similar to S-33, is isn't sourced from Fermentis.
They said they didn't know what Atlantic was equivalent too, but said " It’s a bit like US05, but a tad sweeter on the finish. So it won’t attenuate quite so high.". They also said that although they thought House was similar to S-33, is isn't sourced from Fermentis.
