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Poor Old Gordy 
Does anyone feel sorry for Gordon?? (Poll)
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unclepumble
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Proinsias said:
Brown was Cheif architect in the Blair era Brown held the purse strings, He was a tw*t to all who had differing ideas to him, and cut off the money to their departments, Mo Molam, Shirley Williams, John Reed and countless others all came out of politics due to being stifled by Browns control of the purse strings, there fore if you feels sorry for the little git then you need to open your pork pies.
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jonewer
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No.
Quite apart from the fact that he took the best private pension system in the developed world and reduced it to penury, and the fact that theres no money to pay for public sector pensions really puts paid to any warm and squidgy feelings I might have regarding Brown.
I dont think many will be feeling sorry for him when they are 72 and eating cat food to survive.
Brown has a massive pension and a black book full of extremely lucrative non-exec director options. Not much chance of him being short of the odd £million here or there anytime soon. I guess he'll survive. Dont know about the young unemployed though, whose numbers have increased 50% under his aegis. I'd rather feel sorry for them, to be honest.
Quite apart from the fact that he took the best private pension system in the developed world and reduced it to penury, and the fact that theres no money to pay for public sector pensions really puts paid to any warm and squidgy feelings I might have regarding Brown.
I dont think many will be feeling sorry for him when they are 72 and eating cat food to survive.
Brown has a massive pension and a black book full of extremely lucrative non-exec director options. Not much chance of him being short of the odd £million here or there anytime soon. I guess he'll survive. Dont know about the young unemployed though, whose numbers have increased 50% under his aegis. I'd rather feel sorry for them, to be honest.
jonewer
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unclepumble said:
Not to mention Frank Field, whose radical ideas about reforming the welfare state could have transformed it into an engine for growth and social justice, rather than a lifestyle option for the feckless and a millstone around the neck of the economy.
jamesb
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I feel sorry for the country, now we've got 5 years of that puffy faced toff.
Don't look too smug David, half the country hate you.
Don't look too smug David, half the country hate you.
brewzone
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jamesb said:
Ditto.
I'll never vote cun%servative so long as I live.
Cussword
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jonewer said:
Never mind, we are not as bad as Greece. We still have our gold reserves to see us through :wha: Oh wait, Gordon sold them :whistle:
Should be a new term, if someone takes anything that is working & destroys it, they have "Done A Gordon"
But the income from selling off the Gold reserves went into government gilts, so while technically he sold them, we still have the money . . . of course no one knew that the value of gold would jump through the roof . . . Eagle eye hindsight . . . . . . great thingCussword said:
What I find completely shocking is that the Lib Dems find it easier to side with the Tories than the Labour party. Talk about selling out! Thank f'k I didn't vote for them - fascists in disguise!
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I voted Liberal for the first time in my life, I feel cheated to think I'm part of a party that's snuggled up to the Tories.Tony said:
I wonder how many others feel the same?? :hmm: :hmm:
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31bb3
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The only thing I feel sorry for is he didnt go years ago :x
TBH he should have never got the post anyway there should have been a leadership vote
TBH he should have never got the post anyway there should have been a leadership vote
jonewer
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Tony said:
Who are the fascists? The torys and libdems or labour?
Lets see, which of these lied to the public to justify waging a war of aggression against a foreign country that has never posed a threat to us, and in doing so killed hunderds of thousands of innocent women and children? Not to mention our hundreds of dead and thousands of maimed.
Which if these launched an unprecendented assault on our civil liberties?
Which of these tried to introduce ID cards, instigated Sec. 44 of the terrorism act, criminalised peaceful protest, introduced detention without trial, kept innocent people's DNA on a criminal database, tried to fingerprint school children, turned the UK into a CCTV surveillance society, and had plans to monitor every phonecall, email, and website visited?
Which of these abolished the 10p tax rate thereby increasing taxes on the poor while giving a tax cut to the rich?
Which of these allowed house prices to get so out of control, the average age of a first time buyer is now 37?
Was it Labour? Oh yes! So it was! So really, who are the fascists?
I cant beleive how people talk as if Labour are somehow 'progessive'. Labour make Pol Pot look progressive.
Woah... calm down!
The labour party may be called several things, but not fascists. I remember all too well, the bleak years of Thatcher's govennment. I'm not saying that I defend anything which Brown did and I for one do not feel sorry for him, in fact he damaged the image of socialism for a generation.
I do say however, that it is remarkably interesting to see which side of the fence the lib dems landed on. The tories will always be closer to fascism than just about anyone this side of the BNP.
The labour party may be called several things, but not fascists. I remember all too well, the bleak years of Thatcher's govennment. I'm not saying that I defend anything which Brown did and I for one do not feel sorry for him, in fact he damaged the image of socialism for a generation.
I do say however, that it is remarkably interesting to see which side of the fence the lib dems landed on. The tories will always be closer to fascism than just about anyone this side of the BNP.
jonewer
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Tony said:
By what definition of fascist are the tories worse than labour?
Its cant be the "wars of aggresion that kill 100s of 1000s of innocents", nor can it be the "stripping the public of their civil rights", nor for that matter can it be the "corrupting democracy by gerrymandering the voting system" thing.
So, you are of course entitled to your point of view, but in my considered opinion, theres only one fascist party this side of the BNP and thankfully, they just got voted out.
+1 :thumb:jonewer said:
And you didn't even mention Blair the millionaire (and his missus), Mandleson, (confirmed crook) Michael Martin (national disgrace), Alastair (the liar) Campbell, Jackie (the porn queen) Smith, etc, etc
How do you work that out? . . . The conservatives got something like 30% of the vote and the Lib Dems 10%. . . . With 308 Seat the tories have more seats than any other party, adding the 50 odd lib dem seats they have an out right majority.prolix said:
Well Yeah, no outright mandate, but a coalition government is better than holding election after election until someone gets a majority cause everyone is too fed up to vote any more.prolix said:
I'll say it again that a period of consensual politics will be so much better for the country than party politics
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