Sanitising bottles in dishwasher

JRTurner1234 · Jul 24, 2016

Hi there,

My dishwasher heat setting is '55 - 65C'.

Is this higher enough to sanitise effectively?

Thanks,
JT

Hoddy · Jul 24, 2016

I wouldn't say so personally. Unless you out some starsan in it. But then you run the risk of it going MEGA FOAM. Also I don't think a dishwasher will get inside the bottles.

I'm prepared to be proved wrong mind you.

That aside its bottle washing and sterilising for you like the rest of us [emoji6]

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JRTurner1234 · Jul 24, 2016

I've been cleaning and sterilising using StarSan, but I suspect a wild yeast infection so I want to 'go nuclear'.

As a 'reset' I think I'm going to dishwasher them and then oven them too!

kohoutec · Jul 24, 2016

I do mine in the dishwasher with a couple of squirts of Milton. Ours does a 70ÃÂ° wash. I also however rinse out bottles straight after use, and once they're out of the dishwasher they get star-sanned with the bottle washer as well
It's probably overkill but works for me!

MyQul · Jul 24, 2016

JRTurner1234 said:
I've been cleaning and sterilising using StarSan, but I suspect a wild yeast infection so I want to 'go nuclear'.

As a 'reset' I think I'm going to dishwasher them and then oven them too!

If you want to go nuclear, oven em. I oven my bottles as standard anyway. 150C, 40mins (from turning the oven on, cold, till you turn it off again). Job done. :thumb:

cheapbrew · Jul 24, 2016

Michael, or anyone know if the grolsch type bottle top porcelain bits are ok in the oven to sterilise?

I know I can remove them from the bottles but it's a bit of a feck about.

IronBlue · Jul 25, 2016

I stopped using the dishwasher for cleaning bottles, as they are very good at baking on tiny particles of food inside the bottles....

MyQul · Jul 25, 2016

cheapbrew said:
Michael, or anyone know if the grolsch type bottle top porcelain bits are ok in the oven to sterilise?

I know I can remove them from the bottles but it's a bit of a feck about.

I never sanitise swing tops, in fact I never even clean them I just take them off oven the bottles and chuck them in some star san before putting them back on the bottles. Seeing as their porcelain I'm guessing they'd be ok. You'd need to take the rubber bit off of course and I've found getting it back on again a right PITA

cheapbrew · Jul 25, 2016

yeah you are right, it's probably more hassle to remove the rubber than removing the whole top.

nicowk · Jul 26, 2016

I read on hear from a chap who sounded like he knew what he was on about, that water at 80 degrees sanitises bottles.

Also a quick google search says:

"Sanitizing Methods

Ã¢â¬Â¢

Heat. There are three methods of using heat to sanitize surfaces Ã¢â¬â steam, hot water, and
hot air. Hot water is the most common method used in restaurants. If hot water is used
in the third compartment of a three-compartment sink, it must be at least 171oF (77oC). If
a high-temperature warewashing machine is used to sanitize cleaned dishes, the final
sanitizing rinse must be at least 180oF (82oC). For stationary rack, single temperature
machines, it must be at least 165oF (74oC). Cleaned items must be exposed to these

temperatures for at least 30 seconds."

Global33 · Mar 18, 2017

Drat. Just ordered some sterilising tablets. Wish I'd seen this thread and read about no rinse solutions first.

Gerryjo · Mar 18, 2017

MyQul said:
I never sanitise swing tops, in fact I never even clean them I just take them off oven the bottles and chuck them in some star san before putting them back on the bottles. Seeing as their porcelain I'm guessing they'd be ok. You'd need to take the rubber bit off of course and I've found getting it back on again a right PITA

I take your clasps have oxidised with the starsan then as I know mine have as I had left them in the solution too long Ã°Å¸â¢Æ

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Dutto · Mar 18, 2017

cheapbrew said:
Michael, or anyone know if the grolsch type bottle top porcelain bits are ok in the oven to sterilise?

I know I can remove them from the bottles but it's a bit of a feck about.

If they are actually "porcelain" then "Yes" oven temperatures up to 200 degrees shouldn't affect them. However, it will be wise to let them cool down gently as a lot of heated porcelain won't survive being plunged into cold water.

However, if they are just very hard shiny plastic and not porcelain then they may very well deform when subjected to oven temperatures.

BTW the rubber seals on flip-tops almost certainly won't survive oven temperatures without deformation or bubbling. (This is on the assumption that they are made from the same material as Klinger Jar seals and I've melted those before now! :doh:

)

Dutto · Mar 18, 2017

Gerryjo said:
I take your clasps have oxidised with the starsan then as I know mine have as I had left them in the solution too long Ã°Å¸â¢Æ

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What got me suspicious was when, using Star-San for the first time, I noticed that the jug full of flip-tops had built up a nice frothy head as I was bottling the brew. :doh:

Which is exactly why I now use Oxi-Chem for sterilising the flip-tops and then rinse everything in fresh water before putting them in the fridge to carbonate. :thumb:

Gerryjo · Mar 18, 2017

Dutto said:
What got me suspicious was when, using Star-San for the first time, I noticed that the jug full of flip-tops had built up a nice frothy head as I was bottling the brew.

Which is exactly why I now use Oxi-Chem for sterilising the flip-tops and then rinse everything in fresh water before putting them in the fridge to carbonate. :thumb:

I just boil mine now for ten minutes.:thumb:

Godfather50 · Mar 19, 2017

I rinse bottles after emptying three times in hot water. That night they go in the dishwasher. Then into a cupboard. That's it. Never had an infected bottle of beer.

Pawlo7671 · Mar 20, 2017

MyQul said:
If you want to go nuclear, oven em. I oven my bottles as standard anyway. 150C, 40mins (from turning the oven on, cold, till you turn it off again). Job done. :thumb:

A bit OTT IMO but if it works for you then fair enough.

MyQul · Mar 20, 2017

Pawlo7671 said:
A bit OTT IMO but if it works for you then fair enough.

Perhaps a bit OTT but it's really easy to do, and doesnt take much effort, so worth while IMO

Tripster · Mar 21, 2017

I wash bottles after use, then when I.ve got twenty to do I put them In the dishwasher and then like MyQul I put them In the oven when they.ve cooled down I put cling film over the top when I come to bottling day I put Star San In the bottle rinser give em' a blast of that job done. So much easier than how I used to do em' tubs of very hot water with Oxy clean & a bottling brush & then rinsing each one out three times. bottle cleaning day Is a breeze compared to what It used to be

Cheers Pete

Rogermort · Mar 21, 2017

Godfather50 said:
I rinse bottles after emptying three times in hot water. That night they go in the dishwasher. Then into a cupboard. That's it. Never had an infected bottle of beer.

I rinse bottles after emptying three times in hot water. That night they go in the dishwasher. Then I spray the inside with Starsan and cover the tops with a 'Starsan'd" piece of kitchen foil' then they go into a cupboard. That's it. Never had an infected bottle of beer.

My, very similar, approach.

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