New internet laws articles 11 & 13

jceg316 · Jun 19, 2018

That link law is interesting. The way to rank high on Google is to generate backlinks from other relevant websites, and it's many people's jobs to create campaigns which get links from other sites, large news sites do this too. To get links can be hard enough, but to then say "you also owe us" means no one will link. Google has many ways of determining how to rank websites, but links is the biggest factor. It will be interesting if sites like the Guardian, BBC etc, huge powerful websites, see a loss in links overnight, it's a SEO's biggest nightmare.

This can be tracked quite easily too. There are tools which monitor back links gained and lost, from which sites, and loads more data per link.

MyQul · Jun 19, 2018

Youve mentioned media sites their. News papers are on their ar$e because people get their news online, so if online MSM gets a kickin from this new EU law, does that mean theyll disappear altogether?

jceg316 · Jun 19, 2018

MyQul said:
Youve mentioned media sites their. News papers are on their ar$e because people get their news online, so if online MSM gets a kickin from this new EU law, does that mean theyll disappear altogether?

There might be a short term fluctuation but in the long term probably not. Google treats different niches with different rules, so news will have different ranking factors to fashion ecommerce or credit cards etc. Google are quite reactive when it comes to updating their algorithms, and they will probably find a way to make sure users are getting the news they are looking for. It would be easy to get the right results if someone searches for a "news item" like "Brexit", "Syria", "world cup", etc. however papers will probably struggle with lifestyle searches such as recipes, culture related searches (best places to eat in X), what to watch on TV/Netflix etc.

Then again, Google understands that their users expect to see certain results when they search, and search is very personalised now, so large known sites can rank for keywords even if they don't have the links or on page relevancy.

simon12 · Jun 19, 2018

Without any details on how the link tax will work its very hard to say what the impact will be, but my biggest worry is it will all be eventually used for government censorship and the thought police.

Gunge · Jun 19, 2018

Don't give a monkey's so long as it doesn't affect my porn viewing.

Brianbrewed · Jun 19, 2018

http://www.alphr.com/politics/1009470/article-13-EU-what-is-it-copyright

Looks like a very blunt way of protecting creator copyright.
More than likely will be unenforceable.

jceg316 · Jun 19, 2018

I will also add that this is legislation put forward by uninformed troglodyte politicians who don't know how the internet works, and is either a knee-jerk reaction to something they consider a problem or being paid off by large lobbying groups.

Brianbrewed · Jun 19, 2018

jceg316 said:
I will also add that this is legislation put forward by uninformed troglodyte politicians who don't know how the internet works, and is either a knee-jerk reaction to something they consider a problem or being paid off by large lobbying groups.

Totally agree

marshbrewer · Jun 19, 2018

Interestingly, it would effectively kill off blogging and fisking of politicians articles, which I'm sure is a totally accidental outcome.......

simon12 · Jun 19, 2018

Gunge said:
Don't give a monkey's so long as it doesn't affect my porn viewing.

Article 11 & 13 won't but this will https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...graphy-website-id-uk-government-a8349281.html

Chippy_Tea · Jun 19, 2018

simon12 said:
Article 11 & 13 won't but this will https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...graphy-website-id-uk-government-a8349281.html

Imagine going up to some young lass on the newsagents till and asking for a porn pass, they'll be selling them on EBay soon delivered in a brown paper envelope. :laugh8:

simon12 · Jun 19, 2018

Chippy_Tea said:
Imagine going up to some young lass on the newsagents till and asking for a porn pass, they'll be selling them on EBay soon delivered in a brown paper envelope.

Just like back in the day when you had to go in to buy a copy of razzle.

Chippy_Tea · Jun 19, 2018

simon12 said:
Just like back in the day when you had to go in to buy a copy of razzle.

I preferred Mayfair.

Gunge · Jun 19, 2018

simon12 said:
Just like back in the day when you had to go in to buy a copy of razzle.

I once went into WH. Smiths when it used to be a proper shop ( ie still sold cigs ), got some adult mag and opened it at the amazing centrefold before taking my place in the queue. Upon reaching the gorgeous cashier I put the opened mag down and announced " I want that, but will settle for you instead". Got thrown out sans mag or burd at the till.

Chippy_Tea · Jun 19, 2018

Gunge said:
Upon reaching the gorgeous cashier I put the opened mag down and announced " I want that, but will settle for you instead"

I suppose it was better than "Get your coat luv you've pulled" :laugh8:

simon12 · Jun 19, 2018

it may be unrelated but utube have just taken down several channels which now all go to content not available in your country regardless of country https://www.tomshardware.co.uk/youtube-blocks-channels-eu-copyright,news-58691.html

jceg316 · Jun 20, 2018

They just passed this, will be voted on by EU parliament, hopefully it won't go through.

BeerCat · Jun 20, 2018

simon12 said:
Just like back in the day when you had to go in to buy a copy of razzle.

Only if you were tall enough.

Chippy_Tea · Jun 28, 2018

Well its gone through and if you watch the video below it looks like the internet censorship is about to start.

A committee of MEPs has voted to accept major changes to European copyright law, which experts say could change the nature of the internet.

They voted to approve the controversial Article 13, which critics warn could put an end to memes, remixes and other user-generated content.

Article 11, requiring online platforms to pay publishers a fee if they link to their news content, was also approved.

One organisation opposed to the changes called it a "dark day".

The European Parliament's Committee on Legal Affairs voted by 15 votes to 10 to adopt Article 13 and by 13 votes to 12 to adopt Article 11.

It will now go to the wider European Parliament to vote on in July.

Read full article.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-44546620

BeerCat · Jun 28, 2018

What did anyone expect, freedom.....

New internet laws articles 11 & 13

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