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This begs the question if you had one of these allergys would you trust food manufacturers to label every ingredient or would you only eat food you know is safe.



A second customer died from an allergic reaction to a product bought from Pret a Manger, the chain has confirmed.

The individual died in 2017 after eating a "super-veg rainbow flatbread" which was supposed to be dairy-free.

The company said it was mis-sold a guaranteed dairy-free yoghurt, which contained dairy protein.

The case follows the inquest into the death of Natasha Ednan-Laperouse, 15, who went into cardiac arrest after eating a Pret baguette in 2016.

The second customer died on December 27 last year after buying the sandwich from a store in Stall Street, Bath.

Pret said the yoghurt in the product was supplied by Coyo, a coconut milk brand which is stocked in shops and supermarkets across the UK.

read full article - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45774709
 
Surely a much bigger question is "Why do so many kids have life threatening allergies nowadays?"

THAT is the question to which we all require an answer.

In the 1950's, out of about 200 kids in my school, only ONE of us had eczema and asthma (unfortunately for him, it was the same kid that had both ailments) and as far as I know NONE of us had any allergies to ANY kind of food.
 
Surely a much bigger question is "Why do so many kids have life threatening allergies nowadays?"

THAT is the question to which we all require an answer.

In the 1950's, out of about 200 kids in my school, only ONE of us had eczema and asthma (unfortunately for him, it was the same kid that had both ailments) and as far as I know NONE of us had any allergies to ANY kind of food.
That's because our Mum's wouldn't let us have allergies "You're not getting any pudding till you've ate your dinner"
And then of course there's the wonderful habit of using hand sterilizer in restaraunts, hospitals etc. When we were kids and took a **** in the hedge, wiped your bum on a dock leaf and then stole some apples and ate them, I don't recall any of us sanitizing or washing our hands.
 
The young girl, Natasha, was a friend of mine's daughter.
Whatever the outcomes of court cases, corporate responsibilities, degrees of allergies in children.... he and his family are devastated. It is unimaginable to lose your child, and worse in some respects at an age where they are on the brink of living a full and amazing life....

Trying to remain dispassionate about their tragedy, what still amazes and stuns me is Pret's utter refusal to change their labelling, or even agree that they would begin to change their labelling when they were warned of the dangers on multiple occasions. Now two people are dead, they have decided to change.....
What they were doing with their labelling previously was legal. However it was morally corrupt.
 
I'm certain tha food intolerance and I think also allergies are purely due to over exposure to whatever it is in our diet. Hence many people with a dairy issue switch to soya and develop the same issue with soya.
 
Just checked Wikipedia for allergens and it says:
Genetics
Allergic diseases are strongly familial: identical twins are likely to have the same allergic diseases about 70% of the time; the same allergy occurs about 40% of the time in non-identical twins.[50] Allergic parents are more likely to have allergic children,[51] and those children's allergies are likely to be more severe than those in children of non-allergic parents. Some allergies, however, are not consistent along genealogies; parents who are allergic to peanuts may have children who are allergic to ragweed. It seems that the likelihood of developing allergies is inherited and related to an irregularity in the immune system, but the specific allergen is not.[51]

The risk of allergic sensitization and the development of allergies varies with age, with young children most at risk.[52] Several studies have shown that IgE levels are highest in childhood and fall rapidly between the ages of 10 and 30 years.[52] The peak prevalence of hay fever is highest in children and young adults and the incidence of asthma is highest in children under 10.[53]

Overall, boys have a higher risk of developing allergies than girls,[51] although for some diseases, namely asthma in young adults, females are more likely to be affected.[54] These differences between the sexes tend to decrease in adulthood.[51]

Ethnicity may play a role in some allergies; however, racial factors have been difficult to separate from environmental influences and changes due to migration.[51] It has been suggested that different genetic loci are responsible for asthma, to be specific, in people of European, Hispanic, Asian, and African origins.[55]

Hygiene hypothesis
Main article: Hygiene hypothesis
Allergic diseases are caused by inappropriate immunological responses to harmless antigens driven by a TH2-mediated immune response. Many bacteria and viruses elicit a TH1-mediated immune response, which down-regulates TH2 responses. The first proposed mechanism of action of the hygiene hypothesis was that insufficient stimulation of the TH1 arm of the immune system leads to an overactive TH2 arm, which in turn leads to allergic disease.[56] In other words, individuals living in too sterile an environment are not exposed to enough pathogens to keep the immune system busy. Since our bodies evolved to deal with a certain level of such pathogens, when they are not exposed to this level, the immune system will attack harmless antigens and thus normally benign microbial objects—like pollen—will trigger an immune response.[57]

The hygiene hypothesis was developed to explain the observation that hay fever and eczema, both allergic diseases, were less common in children from larger families, which were, it is presumed, exposed to more infectious agents through their siblings, than in children from families with only one child. The hygiene hypothesis has been extensively investigated by immunologists and epidemiologists and has become an important theoretical framework for the study of allergic disorders. It is used to explain the increase in allergic diseases that have been seen since industrialization, and the higher incidence of allergic diseases in more developed countries. The hygiene hypothesis has now expanded to include exposure to symbiotic bacteria and parasites as important modulators of immune system development, along with infectious agents.

Epidemiological data support the hygiene hypothesis. Studies have shown that various immunological and autoimmune diseases are much less common in the developing world than the industrialized world and that immigrants to the industrialized world from the developing world increasingly develop immunological disorders in relation to the length of time since arrival in the industrialized world.[58] Longitudinal studies in the third world demonstrate an increase in immunological disorders as a country grows more affluent and, it is presumed, cleaner.[59] The use of antibiotics in the first year of life has been linked to asthma and other allergic diseases.[60] The use of antibacterial cleaning products has also been associated with higher incidence of asthma, as has birth by Caesarean section rather than vaginal birth.[61][62]

Stress
Chronic stress can aggravate allergic conditions. This has been attributed to a T helper 2 (TH2)-predominant response driven by suppression of interleukin 12 by both the autonomic nervous system and the hypothalamic–pituitary–adrenal axis. Stress management in highly susceptible individuals may improve symptoms.[63]

Other environmental factors
International differences have been associated with the number of individuals within a population have allergy. Allergic diseases are more common in industrialized countries than in countries that are more traditional or agricultural, and there is a higher rate of allergic disease in urban populations versus rural populations, although these differences are becoming less defined.[64]

Alterations in exposure to microorganisms is another plausible explanation, at present, for the increase in atopic allergy.[32] Endotoxin exposure reduces release of inflammatory cytokines such as TNF-α, IFNγ, interleukin-10, and interleukin-12 from white blood cells (leukocytes) that circulate in the blood.[65] Certain microbe-sensing proteins, known as Toll-like receptors, found on the surface of cells in the body are also thought to be involved in these processes.[66]

Gutworms and similar parasites are present in untreated drinking water in developing countries, and were present in the water of developed countries until the routine chlorination and purification of drinking water supplies.[67] Recent research has shown that some common parasites, such as intestinal worms (e.g., hookworms), secrete chemicals into the gut wall (and, hence, the bloodstream) that suppress the immune system and prevent the body from attacking the parasite.[68] This gives rise to a new slant on the hygiene hypothesis theory—that co-evolution of humans and parasites has led to an immune system that functions correctly only in the presence of the parasites. Without them, the immune system becomes unbalanced and oversensitive.[69] In particular, research suggests that allergies may coincide with the delayed establishment of gut flora in infants.[70] However, the research to support this theory is conflicting, with some studies performed in China and Ethiopia showing an increase in allergy in people infected with intestinal worms.[64] Clinical trials have been initiated to test the effectiveness of certain worms in treating some allergies.[71] It may be that the term 'parasite' could turn out to be inappropriate, and in fact a hitherto unsuspected symbiosis is at work.[71] For more information on this topic, see Helminthic therapy.
 
The young girl, Natasha, was a friend of mine's daughter. .........
What they were doing with their labelling previously was legal. However it was morally corrupt.

I cannot possibly hit the "Like" button to a Post like this but I fully agree with what's Posted.

Message for Angie - any chance of an "Agree" button for things we don't particularly "Like" but definitely "Agree" with the sentiments.

BTW, I and a few others have had this problem before where we want to Post an acknowledgement but don't wish to ost a Reply and a "Like" would be a terrible sentiment to share!
 
With regard to "olden times" one Forum Member once Posted something similar to ...

"I've always been amazed at how smart my Mum was.

She would let me sit at the table until I realised that I liked what she had put in front of me."

Happy Days!
 
With regard to "olden times" one Forum Member once Posted something similar to ...

"I've always been amazed at how smart my Mum was.

She would let me sit at the table until I realised that I liked what she had put in front of me."

Happy Days!

I once had beans for tea, didn't like them, didn't eat them, got nothing else. Next morning I had them for breakfast and by then I liked them! And was grateful that my mum warmed them up.

Sometimes some things work.
 
My son has some pretty strong food allergies - we blame the antibiotics he had young, but we don't really know and there isn't really anything to prove why some people get them and some don't. But I'm sure that stomach bacteria will be proven to have a pretty amazing affect on the body in the future, and surrounding our bodies with anitbac handwashes, dishsoap, meds etc etc will be looked back in as crazy.

We rarely eat out for this very reason, but the only good thing is that it is becoming more and more understood each year so it is getting a little easier to find safe foods in the supermarket and restaurants.

Still stressful though
 
Oh yes...there was no menu when I was young ..you got what was going or done without...I loathed bubble and squeak ,ponch mipe (swede mash) and liver...I like all that now! I did however have tripe on a Friday which I loved!
 
My Mam used two buy tripe from the abattoir. It had been "rinsed" but still needed washing and boiling before it was stuck on a plate. After smelling the tripe when it was taken out of the paper bag, being washed in the sink and even as it was being boiled on the stove, I just couldn't get round to actually liking it; but I still had to eat it!

I once met a coloured gentleman in Saudi Arabia who was forever complaining about not being able to get "soul food". I asked him what "soul food" was and he explained "Belly pork, chitterlings, pig's hocks that kinda stuff. It's all the bits on a hog or a beast that whitey won't eat."

After I had told him what my Mam used to put on the table for us to eat (tripe, brawn made from a pigs head, beasts heart, cows udder, sheeps brains, pig's trotters etc) his response was "My God, I wouldn't even give that to ma dawg!" ...

... but he did stop moaning about "soul food" whenever he was near me!
 
Mmmmmmm, brawn! Mum used to boil up pigs heads and trotters and pick all the meat off before setting it in the jelly from the boiling liquor. Loved it! That and haslet was Sunday night tea with trifle if we were lucky! Cheers @Dutto , happy memories
 
Hi!
It's interesting that being too hygienic is thought to be the cause of today's increase in allergic disorders.
Kids don't seem to play out any more. As a kid, the only time that I wasn't ranging around the local area with my mates was if it was raining (sitting bored and freezing because the clothes horse was hogging all the heat from the fire, not able to make a sound 'cause Dad was on night shift and in bed trying to kip). Cuts, scratches, knocks, all liberally coated with good, clean muck!
No antibacterial handwash then - a good scrub with Lifebuoy was enough for us.
 
I watched a TV programme once where a very studious looking Doctor explained to his host "Kids should play in muck, not be frightened of it and if some of gets into their mouths then so much the better."

The host thanked him and the adverts came on. Enter a man with an obvious cold who coughed as he talked into a phone, ended the conversation and hung up: this was rapidly followed by a woman who lifted up the handset and proceeded to spray it with Dettol.

I presume the Doctor just threw up his hands, took his money and left thinking "Preaching to the deaf here!"
 
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