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Hi All

Desperately need some help with Xmas approaching. Been trying setup home keg system and not as straight forward as thought.

Quite simple system. 2 kegs, connected with G type couplers. Gas cylinder connected to primary regulator which then connects to secondary regulator chained to another secondary regulator both with gauges and then to couplers to each keg.

Issue I have I that when gas is opened. The primary regulator will show full gas in cylinder but the pressure gauges on both secondary regulators never move and show zero. The valve is opened and can’t get any movement.

Any help would be really appreciated as losing what’s left of my tiny mind here.

Supplied photos. I know the photo shows the valve closed but same issue when opened. Was just when took photo.

Thanks so much and fingers crossed. Any checks I can do to see if gas going from primary to secondary would be amazing.

Cheers
 
Hi guys I’ve tried to do both. With the regulators I’ve unscrwed the front of them right out till practically coming off and then tightened up again and still no response from the gauges.

There is a little metal cylinder on them so as to not tighten too much that I can see

Just strange that can’t get any pressure showing on both gauges.

Really not sure what else I can do. When depress the coupler for example no air is passing through so getting blocked somewhere. Just unsure what I can check and how do thanks for all the advice.
 
Yeah done the same with that. Just for clarity though, should the screw be all the way out or as tight as an be on both primary and secondary?

Appreciated
 
Also for the valves to be open, should they be in the down position or up at right angle and facing to left just so cover everything?
 
The screw should not be all the way out. As you screw them in this increases the pressure to the outlet. You shouldn't need to screw them right in but there should be some resistance felt.
Concentrate on the primary regulator and first secondary. Screw the primary in a turn or so and then do the same with the secondary. Hopefully you should see some movement on the secondary gauge (you may need to repeat a couple of times if starting from the fully out position.
The valves on the bottom of the secondary should not make a difference at this stage as the gauges will still show a gas pressure with them shut.
 
Thank you very much.

I will do that this morning as initially I only had s primary regulator connected to both kegs by t piece and beer was coming out however was full of foam so got 2 secondary regulators so could see how much pressure actually being out into kegs and now nothing hence my confusion.

Do you need any photos or anything to see setup? Thanks again. Really appreciate all your time as trying get it running fir Xmas
 
Can't quite see on the photos but is there a JG blank on the side outlet of the second secondary regulator?

Yeah there is a blank on the last secondary regulator and on the T piece I’m using from primary into secondary’s as gas line comes out bottom rather than side?

Will I out proper photo up?
 
Thought there must be a blank otherwise you would have emptied the cylinder by now.
Sounds like the primary was set too high, unfortunately it doesn't have a second pressure gauge, but functioning.
Hopefully just a case of screwing the secondary in a bit more.
 
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Should I remove the primary from tank then screw right in and then reconnect and check secondary’s for pressure without even attaching to keg?

Pressure should go through primary into secondary’s and show reduced psi that’s right ie 10-12 and can be set with the screw at front? As I say there is a metal cylinder on both of them at front so can only screw in so far
 
You guys are absolute legends.

There was a rubber protector on the primary regulator so could only screw in so far. I’ve took this off completely, removed the stopper and screwed back in tight.

Switched gas on and tightened up all the John guest connectors as could hear leaks. Powered gas back on and set to psi of 12-14 psi as have Budweiser and Magners on kegs.

Should I just leave the gas running through the secondary’s without connecting to kegs just to see if any pressure drop and when I do connect to kegs should I then leave for few hours to settle?

Thanks again guys. Absolutely delighted with all your help.
 
If you turn it off at the cylinder the reading on the tank pressure gauge will drop quickly if there are any leaks.
Glad you got it sorted as always tricky to diagnose problems by remote control
 
In terms of connecting the couplers to kegs. Should pressure stay the same ie 14psi and should I leave them connected for any length of time before trying to pour?

Also lady question I promise. Should I just leave everything connected ie overnights etc ir should I switch gas off and on each night - will it waste the beer in keg?

Cheers again guys. Delighted. Just need check can actually pour a pint
 
Hi!
Glad you've solved the problem.
One tip - when turning on the gas using the tap on the main tank, you will find that it doesn't have to be fully turned in the On direction. Turn it until the gauge on the primary regulator registers pressure, then stop. That way you can quickly turn it off in an emergency.
You don't need to keep the gas connected to the kegs all the time; this won't affect the beer. However, if you are force carbing the beer, you will need to regularly add gas to the kegs as it is absorbed by the beer. The easiest way to do that is to keep the gas connected. Once carbed, you only need to add gas as you pull pints, so in between a drinking session, you could disconnect.
 
Was getting my hopes up guys but just tried to pour a pint of cider and it’s reallu flat and the beer is just pure foam.

The psi on the secondary gauges is set to 16psi and valves open. The lines are about 4m in length and run through cooler to pump. Not sure what else can do.
 
The problem is likely with your beer lines. You need a certain pressure to keep the gas suspended. This can be done with long thin lines or a flow regulator. Unfortunately the only thing you can do without one of these options is to turn the pressure down and vent the keg, and then turn it back up to maintain the fizz.
It shouldn't loose too much however over the course of an evening so it should be ok for crimbo if you just dial down the pressure.
 
Who you say vent the keg, what or how do I do that please? I do have flow controllers under the beer fonts and tried to restrict / open at various points and still comes out foamy and flat. Sorry for all the hassles. Losing the will to live with it all for Xmas
 

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