MyQul
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This. The supermarket Iceland trades on frozen (cheap) unhealthy ****
Nanny state.
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This. The supermarket Iceland trades on frozen (cheap) unhealthy ****
Richie_asg1
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They could always impose a government tax on cooked food and cakes - say 20% and keep fruit and vegetables at 0% and thereby encourage more people to buy the 0% rated more healthy goods.
MyQul
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Also this. The amount of scooter boyz/girlz zipping about London delivering food is unbelievable. The McDonalds in surbiton where I work, has a cadre of about 5-6 of these Scooter boyz/girlz sitting in the window waiting to deliver orders
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Why? What business of mine, or yours, or the state is it what people choose to eat?
It always amuses me how they don't ban the sale of tobacco and alcohol as neither is good for our health yet they pick on sugar in drinks and now certain types of food would tax revenue have any bearing on this decision?
I wonder how much of a difference plain packaging has made to tobacco sales, they really went for it with that one.
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MrRook
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It would help to cut down childhood obesity if parents sent their kids outside to play instead of letting them spend all day sitting on their asses playing video games.
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If I am remembering the stats correctly, we were healthiest as a nation post-war. There was a high ratio of jobs with physical activity, a lot of vegetables being eaten and less meat, and a lot less sugar.
The chances of getting back to that are minimal at this point, but if could be moved that way with work and education.
Any rich country tends to have a surfeit of food available for it's population, and we are a rich country without a doubt. That is not to say there aren't deprived and poor people of course, just that cheap crappy food is more available than say Mozambique or Papua New Guinea.
As mentioned above, food size portions are large, and people move less and eat more.
The Chief medical officer has no tax raising powers, that's beyond her remit or authority, but she does have influence.
My dislike of the "Nanny state" approach that this thread is about, is the general derogatory, patronising attitude that governments cal fall into. They may decide that the public is "stupid" or "ignorant", but it was their job to educate them in the first place!
Taxing "bad" foods merely removes money from people who are already hard pressed when it comes to money, and always seems to move the money to people or organisations/businesses that are already rich and only getting richer.
Education... education... education. That is the only longer term approach that will work. Anything else is just rearranging deckchairs on the Titanic.
The chances of getting back to that are minimal at this point, but if could be moved that way with work and education.
Any rich country tends to have a surfeit of food available for it's population, and we are a rich country without a doubt. That is not to say there aren't deprived and poor people of course, just that cheap crappy food is more available than say Mozambique or Papua New Guinea.
As mentioned above, food size portions are large, and people move less and eat more.
The Chief medical officer has no tax raising powers, that's beyond her remit or authority, but she does have influence.
My dislike of the "Nanny state" approach that this thread is about, is the general derogatory, patronising attitude that governments cal fall into. They may decide that the public is "stupid" or "ignorant", but it was their job to educate them in the first place!
Taxing "bad" foods merely removes money from people who are already hard pressed when it comes to money, and always seems to move the money to people or organisations/businesses that are already rich and only getting richer.
Education... education... education. That is the only longer term approach that will work. Anything else is just rearranging deckchairs on the Titanic.
No, we are healthiest now. That is why we are living longer, and no longer die of starvation, rickets, scurvey, and so on. Hurrah for progress! We were much thinner then, if that's what you mean; rationing and food shortages can do that. Hard, physical jobs also meant we were so thin and unhealthy that many died without enjoying a retirement, because our bodies were kaput.
Some people choose to enjoy this much improved life expectancy by eating cake and drinking pop. Good for them.
Nanny can go and do one.
Some people choose to enjoy this much improved life expectancy by eating cake and drinking pop. Good for them.
Nanny can go and do one.
I fall into this category but choose beer and wine over pop and pringles and peanuts over cake.
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I fall into this category but choose beer and wine over pop and pringles and peanuts over cake.
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Cask ale, homebrew, cheese and crackers for me
However, I offset it by running, cycling and keeping fit by running after the kids. Everything in moderation.
I'm cutting back on meat...tonight I'm having tandoori chicken Madras.
On a second though I'm cutting back on ****all having seen some poor sod knocked off his bike and under a car this morning. I truly hope he/she is ok...
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Yes! That's what I meant' Sorry, long day and tired!
My kind of diet Clint. :thumba:
Clint - you should start your own thread about curry with recipes. Looks yummy!.
New forum started - https://www.thehomebrewforum.co.uk/forums/the-foodies-forum.82/
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MyQul
Chairman of the Bored
Yes, the DiNicolantonio study, was the one I was referring too. The article you linked refutes this of course. Even if sugar isn't as addictive as cocaine, from personal experience I would suggest sugar is strongly habit forming and addictive to a degree. Scientists can argue about just how addictive it is, but I think it's addictive nonetheless . So I think my broader point still stands, sugar still presses the reward buttons in the brain, and food manufacturers know this, so load all kinds of food with sugar so people will repeatedly buy their products - to the detriment of their health
Manufacturers make food tasty so people will buy it?
MyQul
Chairman of the Bored
Not neccessarily tasty but to a certain degree addictive and will be detrimental to health. The human brain is hard wired for sweet things, so by adding sweetness (sugar) to things that aren't naturally sweet (like my chicken breast example), manufacturers, manipulate our biology to get us to buy stuff
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