Some convicted killers could have prison records wiped

I am sure the news that "the change will not apply to offences attracting the most serious sentences" will soften the blow to all employers.

And another worry - " it is most likely to apply to lower level, non-violent offences after a "rehabilitation period" - during which they do not re-offend - has passed"



BBC News -

Some convicted killers, sex offenders and drug dealers could have their records wiped under new plans to help them back to work.

People sentenced to more than four years in prison currently have to disclose their conviction to employers for the rest of their working life.

Justice secretary David Gauke wants to scrap this rule to "break barriers" to employment for reformed criminals.

The change will not apply to offences attracting the most serious sentences.

"The responsibility, structure and support provided by regular work is an essential component of effective rehabilitation, something which benefits us all by reducing re-offending and cutting the cost of crime," said Mr Gauke.

"That's why we are introducing reforms to break barriers faced by ex-offenders who genuinely want to turn their lives around through employment."

The Ministry of Justice (MoJ) said the new legislation in England and Wales is most likely to apply to lower level, non-violent offences after a "rehabilitation period" - during which they do not reoffend - has passed.

It will not apply to those convicted of serious sexual, violent and terrorism offences, murder or those who have served life terms.

However, it could be applied to people who have served sentences for offences including manslaughter, assault, robbery and some sex offences.

Read in full - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48975391

I would've imagined that killing someone else and raping someone (along and with organised druh dealing) were the most serious of crimes?

I wonder where they will draw the line, even if not for the most serious of crimes i am uncomfortable with any sex offenders being in this list.

"More likely" is also a worry.

And another worry - " it is most likely to apply to lower level, non-violent offences after a "rehabilitation period" - during which they do not re-offend - has passed"

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Try telling someone that is a victim of any crime that it's not serious...

Our works used to be a revolving door for agency labourers, ie immigrants and those just out of nick. Christ, I either couldn't communicate with them on any level ( immigrants ) or genuinely, albeit only occasionally, felt in fear of my life if I put a foot wrong with the crims. A stop was put to all that nonsense a few years ago. It's getting to summat when these oxygen-stealers are getting help to leapfrog the good people of this world in finding work.

Gunge said:

Our works used to be a revolving door for agency labourers, ie immigrants and those just out of nick. Christ, I either couldn't communicate with them on any level ( immigrants ) or genuinely, albeit only occasionally, felt in fear of my life if I put a foot wrong with the crims. A stop was put to all that nonsense a few years ago. It's getting to summat when these oxygen-stealers are getting help to leapfrog the good people of this world in finding work.

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I assume you're work relief on a lot of agency staff at peak and holiday periods and have nothing to declare to the main company as they are indirect employees..

Gerryjo said:

I assume you're work relief on a lot of agency staff at peak and holiday periods and have nothing to declare to the main company as they are indirect employees..

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We don't use agency types anymore, firm decided enough was enough and set on enough full time staff to eliminate the need. I got the agency to stop sending bloody migrants just by uttering the words 'health and safety'. Hehe. Caused a right ol' furore that did. F*** 'em. I expect 90% of the crims we saw will now be filling their days wandering around the town centre off their faces on Spice or whatever, blaming everyone except themselves for their predicament.

So, at 22 years of age you find your wife in bed with another bloke and in a fit of rage you kill one of them. (Which one is open to discussion!)

Under the current law, 35 years after you have "done the crime" and 20 years after you have "served your time" you have to tell a potential employer that you committed a crime all those years ago; with no regard to what you have done for the 20 years. e.g. You may have lead a blameless life and become a pillar of society!

Sorry, but such a person is not a threat to society at large and should not be made to divulge the fact that he did something up to 35 years ago.

Personally, I try not to live in fear of whatever current "scare" story is being put out by the media, so I applaud the fact that someone is looking at changing a law that I (and I assume many others) didn't even know existed!

The article did say those that are a danger would be excluded so I assume the person in your last post would not have to tell an employer about his past under the new rules.