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I suppose what is "adequate" is very dependent on a person's lifestyle. If they sit on their ass all day at work and spend their free time watching TV then an adequate amount of protein is probably very low. If they're a gym bunny or are trying to build muscle mass then I would say it's very difficult to get adequate protein on a vegan diet.
The Vegan Butcher. That's a great name for veggie food products...but then some soppy tree hugger would find it inhumane to be butchering a load of Maris pipers or a free range cabbage...
I like my vegetables too, actually, I do like parsnips too. Even turnips. I would probably eat more vegetables, if it wasn't for my wife, she likes fruit more than vegetables. Which makes it sometimes difficult to balance our weekly recipe. But she's going back to WW now, which normally makes it easier for me to eat more vegetables.
To me Clint they taste like channel no5 horrible
Fancy that!Marlyn Monroe's neck tasted like parsnips!
Fancy that!Marlyn Monroe's neck tasted like parsnips
I believe the use of "sausage, burger,nuggets, steakbake" is being looked into by the relative advertising authorities as they do not contain meat in a terminology that infers it has meat in the product. Do not shoot the messenger
I would never shoot anyone, but a very good point
MyQul
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The requirement for protein isnt actually that much (for the averge bloke its about 56g, which is actually quite easy to get in. Most vegs has a small amount of it in (how do you think big powerful mammals like bison or gorrilla get so big - they do have to spend an awful lot of their time eating though) and you then just have to go for the 'big hitters' like beans and nuts. There's also stuff like tofu if you want to eat that
There are plenty of vegan bodybuilders. I'm not sure exactly how they do it because I'm not one of them but it seems doable
Edit - bodybuilders seem to consume a lot of protein shakes. A lot of these protein powers come from whey but you can get pea protein. So perhaps that's one way they do it?
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MyQul
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That's what they want you to think! I'd say corporate advertising is far more insidious the a few hippies telling you not to eat meat because it's cruel
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Yeah for the average person, who is pretty sedentary, it wouldn't be too difficult. For those trying to add muscle mass the rda is 1g/lb bodyweight which for a 15st bloke like me is 210g of protein. That would be difficult or very expensive without milk and whey protein. The other factor is that not all proteins are created equal, pea protein is significantly inferior to whey protein not to mention a lot more expensive. I know there are vegan bodybuilders (don't get me started on Vegan Gains
) but it's really tough for them to get the same quantity and quality of protein.
Anyway now christmas is over I now identify as a Turkey/Nutroast
MyQul
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Yeah for the average person, who is pretty sedentary, it wouldn't be too difficult. For those trying to add muscle mass the rda is 1g/lb bodyweight which for a 15st bloke like me is 210g of protein. That would be difficult or very expensive without milk and whey protein. The other factor is that not all proteins are created equal, pea protein is significantly inferior to whey protein not to mention a lot more expensive. I know there are vegan bodybuilders (don't get me started on Vegan Gains
Even if your pretty active and not sedentary (like myself) It's fairly easy to get enough protein. Even if you goal is just to get fit or play a sport it's still relatively easy (at a non elite level - there are plenty of elite level sports people who are vegan so that shows it's doable). What your talking about of course is bodybuilding which which is quite a small percentage of the population.Bodybuilding isnt easy as Im sure you know and I would think if your dedicated enough to spend hours in a gym wanting to build muscle , plus your a vegan, you'd simply put the effort in to find a way.
What on earth is vegan gains?
You could have waited til after the holidays.
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Not bodybuilding specifically but anyone who wants to get bigger or stronger, which if you've been in a gym recently seems to be a lot of people. Anyway, my point was not that it's impossible but simply that for certain people a vegan diet makes it considerably more difficult or expensive to get enough protein.
MyQul
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I've been pescatarian (no white or red meat but I would eat fish/dairy) for a couple of decades so switching to veganism was fairly simple for me
How about an Impossible Whopper from Burger King? I'm tempted to try it.
MyQul
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I don't go in gyms to keep fit. I've got my recumbent
So we agree. Getting enough protein and building muscle on a vegan diet is not impossible
Brother In Law does just no red meat. He likes it.
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