Veganuary.

Slid · Jan 5, 2020

SWMBO told me this morning that we will be having a veggie day once a week, with no meat and something like a veg stir fry. Very much a "Yes, Dear" moment. No idea how long this will last, as she regards a main meal without meat as some form of "deprivation".

There are vegetarians where I work and it does puzzle me that their healthy, almost obsessive diets lead to no better actual health and rather grey looking skin. Maybe they could try a carnivore day once a week? Bet that would go down like a Lead Balloon. :laugh8:

kelper · Jan 5, 2020

Slid said:
SWMBO told me this morning that we will be having a veggie day once a week, with no meat and something like a veg stir fry. Very much a "Yes, Dear" moment. No idea how long this will last, as she regards a main meal without meat as some form of "deprivation".

On those nights tell her you're going out. It's unfair to make a decision like that without your input.

Chippy_Tea · Jan 5, 2020

To be honest I wouldn't mind if SWMBO did this I wouldn't mind trying meat free meals then if they were awful at least I could say I tried.

An Ankoù · Jan 5, 2020

Fresh from the Guardian UK edition:
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeand...-vegetables-lack-nutrients-fightback-veganism
Of course, meat producers have a vested interest here, but even so!

Clint · Jan 5, 2020

We do meat free nights but I have a bit of chicken with mine.

Chippy_Tea · Jan 5, 2020

Clint said:
We do meat free nights but I have a bit of chicken with mine.

kelper · Jan 5, 2020

I think it's diabolical that US farmers feed cattle with corn. It's not a complete diet so they need supplements. It's due to massive corn surpluses caused by subsidies. The surplus is used to make high fructose corn syrup which is used in so many processed foods. There are horrific factory farms in America - feed lots where the cows never see the light of day or taste a blade of grass. So we try to eat ethically produced meat and poultry, line caught fish etc. And some vegetarian meals.

Slid · Jan 5, 2020

kelper said:
On those nights tell her you're going out. It's unfair to make a decision like that without your input.

I don't "go out" ashock1

. I make the tea and the lunches for the next day. The unfairness will be short lived. I doubt it will go beyond a fortnight.

Last year it was "gluten free". She can read. Maybe not as far as "Give us, this day, our daily bread", but she can read. wink...

druid1966 · Jan 5, 2020

If you are leery of trying a vegetarian night, and you like Indian/curries...its a great place to start. That's how I started trying this whole thing out and am starting to enjoy some of the benefits..(having said that, I only do it a few times a week as I do like meat) Cumin scented rice with vegetable pakoras, channa masala, and Aloo Gobi....mmmmmm

chesters-mild · Jan 5, 2020

It seems from the many replies to this subject that a lot of us are becoming flexitarians in our diet, I've done so now for about two years and I do feel better for it, I still enjoy my meat though, but just not so much of it and not so often.
Happy New Year folks !

druid1966 · Jan 5, 2020

Not sure if its "flex" atarian….might be more to do with being "broke" atarian...lol

(at least in my case)

MyQul · Jan 5, 2020

An Ankoù said:
Fresh from the Guardian UK edition:
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeand...-vegetables-lack-nutrients-fightback-veganism
Of course, meat producers have a vested interest here, but even so!

I read that today. Where are the independent studies to back this up? Like you say he has a vested interest as meat producers seem to be losing money over the interest in vegan diets/eating less meat. Without any actual scientific evidence it's just his opinion

MyQul · Jan 5, 2020

Slid said:
There are vegetarians where I work and it does puzzle me that their healthy, almost obsessive diets lead to no better actual health and rather grey looking skin. Maybe they could try a carnivore day once a week? Bet that would go down like a Lead Balloon.

It's probably because they're not eating enough calories. Believe it or not the healthier a vegan/vegetarian diet is, the more you need to make sure you're eating enough. A very healthy vegan/vegetarian diet has lots and lots of unrefined fruit and veg. This has a lot of fibre which is really filling but no very calorie dense (this is why a whole foods vegan diet is a good choice if you want to lose weight because you can stuff yourself and still be at a calorie deficit). This is where the weak, skinny vegan thing comes from

DavidHatton · Jan 5, 2020

Stib said:
I don't get it! Vegetables have feeling's ( Apparently ) but poeple want to eat them even more than ever but don't think for one moment your helping with your carbon foot print because your not lol

Let the rabbits wear glass!!

An Ankoù said:
Fresh from the Guardian UK edition:
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeand...-vegetables-lack-nutrients-fightback-veganism
Of course, meat producers have a vested interest here, but even so!

Been having conversations for years about the nutritional value of veg, due to excessive production, as a non expert but someone who is married to an agricultural scientist, nutrients aren't being replaced in the majority of soils. which leads to the obvious.

Clint · Jan 5, 2020

Interesting....so,can you grow nutrient deficient produce in nutrient deficient soil,in the volume and "quality" required?
Or is artificial fertilizer and GM the norm?

strange-steve · Jan 6, 2020

DavidHatton said:
Let the rabbits wear glass!!

A Tool reference?

BeerCat · Jan 6, 2020

MyQul said:
Im willing to bet there's less human cruelty (in the form of human rights abuses) in Europe and the USA than in china

What about the massive rise in halal. How on earth is this being tolerated...

chesters-mild · Jan 6, 2020

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druid1966 said:
Not sure if its "flex" atarian….might be more to do with being "broke" atarian...lol

Yep as I'm an OAP that's about right. Cheers

(at least in my case)

kelper · Jan 6, 2020

BeerCat said:
What about the massive rise in halal. How on earth is this being tolerated...

Halal and Jewish ritual slaughter is regulated under UK law. What is your objection?

Look here https://www.gov.uk/guidance/halal-and-kosher-slaughter

A very sharp knife in skilled hands can sever an animal's arteries and veins with no pain. Exsanguination is very quick.

Pavros · Jan 6, 2020

Clint said:
...butchering a load of Maris pipers or a free range cabbage...

Free Range Cabbage is going to be the name of my Indie band

DavidHatton said:
Let the rabbits wear glass!!

And this will be the title of the album when we go through our prog phase

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