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If you are not a football fan please don't comment this thread is for football fans not for football haters to vent, thanks.

I was listening to the commentary when the incident described in the article below happened 5 different commentators and several players (on social media) said it was a straight red but David Coote, the Video Assistant Referee for this game at VAR HQ at Stockley Park decided it was not, I think VAR is a good thing when it works but they need X players making these decisions as saying "the player had nowhere else to put his foot" is ridiculous.




Lo Celso, whose season-long loan from Real Betis was turned into a permanent deal last month, rode a challenge from Azpilicueta on 52 minutes, but then stamped on the Spaniard's shin as he planted his foot. Azpilicueta writhed in agony on the pitch and underwent lengthy treatment, with television footage showing stud marks on his shin.
Match referee Michael Oliver had failed to spot the severity of the incident, but unsurprisingly, it was immediately reviewed by VAR. It should have been a straightforward decision for David Coote, the Video Assistant Referee for this game at VAR HQ at Stockley Park. But Coote, who has taken charge of 23 Premier League games and never issued a straight red card, inexplicably judged the challenge to be not worthy of a sending off, with the initial Premier League briefing suggesting that it was not a clear and obvious error because the VAR didn't feel there was anywhere else for Lo Celso to put his foot.
https://www.espn.com/soccer/english...th-azpilicueta-overshadows-girouds-big-moment



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Ex players know the severity of what a bad challenge can be to the future of another player even career ending and referees most of the time do not take this into consideration
 
They said it was a potential leg breaker i haven't seen the incident but it sounded bad.
 
A Spurs supporter. I watched the game and it should have been a red.
VAR is awful, trust Premier league to get it wrong.
The way video is used in cricket, tennis and rugby is good, why has football got it so wrong?
 
The way video is used in cricket, tennis and rugby is good, why has football got it so wrong?

Why doesn't the ref use the screen at the side of the pitch i believe its only been used a handful of times if that.
 
I don't follow cricket or rugby so haven't a clue how their systems work, would they work for football and how does theirs differ?
 
It should of been a straight red. It's the inconsistency that annoys most people. Harry Maguire should of been sent of against Chelsea as well. Var in principle is meant to help the game. To me it's ruining it, it should be scrapped
 
And the answer to the question is yes, X players understand the game better. They should be trying to recruit X players as referee's as well.
 
Why doesn't the ref use the screen at the side of the pitch i believe its only been used a handful of times if that.
Exactly. The ref has the final say if a linesman (assistant ref on the pitch) makes a decision. If VAR says they may have made a mistake it should be for them to look at it and make that decision. There’s been some shockers tonight. Glad I’m a QPR supporter and we don’t have to worry about that in our league :)
 
I have always been in favour of video technology, but yesterday proved that a weak link is the video assistant referee himself. This was compounded by the fact that the same person then was chosen to be the VAR for the Leicester Man City game later in the day and made glaring errors there too.

The VAR should have been there to examine the footage and if a contentious incident is spotted, to relay it to the pitchside monitor for the ref to make the decision on. This year has been an experiment, big decisions need to be made in the close season, on what the VAR should be used for and how the laws need to be tweaked to make it work.
 
They have taken the decision making away from the the on pitch referee and that's where the problem lies. They should not be a remote ref watching the game, if the on pitch ref is unsure then he should look at the monitor at pitch side.
 
I was at the game and confidently told everyone around me that he would get his marching orders. Couldn't believe it when he got let off....
 
I thought the referees had been instructed to use the pitch side monitors more frequently, but seemingly have not done that. Also Michael Oliver created a bit of a media storm when he used the monitor at the Palace v Derby cup match as recently as early January and then sent someone off upgrading it from a yellow he had previously given, but failed to have a look yesterday. Where's the consistency in that?
I think it should be mandatory for the refs to consult the monitor prompted by the VAR studio. Then they alone make any decisions. Who's in charge after all?
 
Was also at that Palace game not sure how he overturned his original decision as he had great view in real time. Always looks worse slowed down.
 
Haven't seen the incident but to answer your question, no. Players will be biased and aren't trained refs. Agree the system needs changing, each ground should have a big screen to review decisions.
 
Looked like a good tackle to me, I think the Chelsea player should've been booked for jumping underneath his foot






(Spurs fan here wink...)
 
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