Thanks I have a food grade cube with a bit like a jerry can, I am fed up with the chiliing coil and all that wasted water, I will be brewing an IPA next weekend,e it a go, so I will give it a go. I will post my findings after.
I have a wort cooler but hate wasting the water my rain water but is full so I shal be leaving my wort to cool overnight as Dave and Cryill did . Mined you in the summer I use 2 litre lemonande bottles filled with frozen salted water with an insulated jacket around my fermenter.
I use Mr. Berry's book homemade beers etc, to 'brew' good beers using liquid malt extract and his first steps to make very drinkable elderberry wines, which take about a year to be drinkable.
My LME ales using CJJ Berry and Dave Lines recipes are taking about 10-14 days at 20 degrees but turn out very drinkable. I use and insulated jacket from a fast fermenter with 2 litre lemonade bottles with frozen salt water to maintain the temperature, changing the the bottles once a day.