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  1. marshbrewer

    New Fresh Ale category claimed

    What is / are these conspiracies I subscribe to exactly? Feel free to read through my previous posts. What is / are your objections to "Fresh Ale" aka unpasteurized keg, being accurately described at the point of sale so as to remove any possibility of it being confused as real ale?
  2. marshbrewer

    New Fresh Ale category claimed

    That's actually a good idea.
  3. marshbrewer

    New Fresh Ale category claimed

    Fresh Ale.. The idea so confident in it's genius it has to be a secret. Shhhhh! :D
  4. marshbrewer

    New Fresh Ale category claimed

    But how could I inadvertently buy such a pint, as there is absolutely no deception or passing off, as @Sadfield has assured us? wink...
  5. marshbrewer

    New Fresh Ale category claimed

    Am I to take it from that, that you don't support my excellent idea for helpful point of sale information?
  6. marshbrewer

    Brown ale

    Any ale yeast will do.
  7. marshbrewer

    Brown ale

    So, I think that will be Gervin / Nottingham yeast, so I would have expected it to have kicked off by now. What temp is it at?
  8. marshbrewer

    New Fresh Ale category claimed

    Not really. As I believe I have already said, not everyone will have read Carlsbergs splendid marketing output. So, at the point of sale, I am proposing the aforementioned information, so no one is deceived. I'm sure you wholeheartedly support that.
  9. marshbrewer

    Brown ale

    What yeast did you use, Max?
  10. marshbrewer

    New Fresh Ale category claimed

    Providing it is clearly labeled as what it is. Which is keg. So, something along the lines of "This isn't live real ale from a cask, but filtered keg which is being served served through this beer engine so you get the theatre you deserve" Glad we all agree. What shall be chat about now?
  11. marshbrewer

    New Fresh Ale category claimed

    Well it's is ever so simple. They are trying to sell keg as cask, by passing it of as something it isn't. In reality, it is keg. I can't bridge the difference between a Fiat and a Ferrari by slapping a Ferrari badge and paint job on a Panda.
  12. marshbrewer

    New Fresh Ale category claimed

    No, I'm not sure. Unlike real ale in cask, which is a defined thing, "Fresh Ale" can be owt.
  13. marshbrewer

    New Fresh Ale category claimed

    No, it's almost exactly that (except they filter it before putting it in the keg, force carb it and don't have the intermittent beer bag step). As you say, it's a way to mimic cask, but it isn't cask. Which is why I have an issue with them passing it off as cask, which at the point of serve, I...
  14. marshbrewer

    New Fresh Ale category claimed

    Not cask drinkers if cask is longer in their chain pubs supply catalogue, knowledge of how to keep it has been lost, and the various mass / large volume cask brands are now only available as keg to be served through a beer engine.
  15. marshbrewer

    allinson yeast

    About 10-15 years ago, Tesco definitely used to sell Coopers Pale Ale. Not any more, unfortunately, as I have brought it in the past to culture up the yeast.
  16. marshbrewer

    New Fresh Ale category claimed

    I can assure you that they are indeed proposing serving it through a beer engine. Let's just hope it's a massive failure, and there are a load of keg modified hand pumps flooding the second hand market * as I know a while forum full of keg users who would be interested wink... *this is a...
  17. marshbrewer

    New Fresh Ale category claimed

    I don't disagree that there is more to cask / real ale than dispense, which is why fresh keg ale isn't cask / real ale. My concerns are that people associate beer engines with cask. That is why they are using them for fresh ale, in my opinion, as they are trying to hoodwink the unaware punter...
  18. marshbrewer

    New Fresh Ale category claimed

    I would rather see no cask than rubbish cask. That's a different argument: it doesn't mean I want to see keg passed off as cask. It might be counterintuitive, but if cask was only sold where it was well kept (which I reality means where it sells in volume) people's experience of it might well...
  19. marshbrewer

    New Fresh Ale category claimed

    My point is the large chains that presently do cask, will see this as an opportunity to kill it off - less staff training, less waste, public get conned - win win (for them). This will cause a huge reduction in demand for cask, which will mean it won't be produced in volume. This will mean it...
  20. marshbrewer

    New Fresh Ale category claimed

    Does it acknowledge that though? Does it have a sign on the beer engine that says "This is keg, not cask. This isn't real ale"? No, it has a non-descript "brewery conditioned" label (at the moment, while they see how much they can get away with) which doesn't really inform the unaware about...
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