5am Saint grain bill check please...

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  1. Mar 30, 2017 #1

    Blinky

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    Folks,

    I am looking to make a clone of 5am saint - I have got the recipe from DIY Dog but have dropped the crystal malts down a bit, just looking for some confirmation that the recipe looks OK? Should I maybe also drop the amount of caramalt as well?

    HOME BREW RECIPE:
    Title: 5am Sinner

    Brew Method: All Grain
    Style Name: American Amber Ale
    Boil Time: 60 min
    Batch Size: 20.1 liters (fermentor volume)
    Boil Size: 25 liters
    Boil Gravity: 1.043
    Efficiency: 68% (brew house)


    STATS:
    Original Gravity: 1.053
    Final Gravity: 1.013
    ABV (standard): 5.2%
    IBU (tinseth): 34.18
    SRM (morey): 13.63

    FERMENTABLES:
    3.2 kg - United Kingdom - Pale 2-Row (63.3%)
    800 g - United Kingdom - Cara Malt (15.8%)
    635 g - United Kingdom - Munich (12.6%)
    300 g - American - Caramel / Crystal 60L (5.9%)
    120 g - United Kingdom - Crystal 140L (2.4%)

    HOPS:
    5.5 g - Amarillo, Type: Pellet, AA: 9, Use: Boil for 60 min, IBU: 6.68
    5.5 g - Cascade, Type: Pellet, AA: 5.1, Use: Boil for 60 min, IBU: 3.79
    5.5 g - Nelson Sauvin, Type: Pellet, AA: 12.5, Use: Boil for 30 min, IBU: 7.14
    11.5 g - Amarillo, Type: Pellet, AA: 9, Use: Boil for 15 min, IBU: 6.94
    11.5 g - Nelson Sauvin, Type: Pellet, AA: 12.5, Use: Boil for 15 min, IBU: 9.63
    14 g - Amarillo, Type: Pellet, AA: 9, Use: Boil for 0 min
    14 g - Nelson Sauvin, Type: Pellet, AA: 12.5, Use: Boil for 0 min
    31 g - Ahtanum, Type: Pellet, AA: 6, Use: Dry Hop for 7 days
    31 g - Amarillo, Type: Pellet, AA: 9, Use: Dry Hop for 7 days
    59.5 g - Cascade, Type: Pellet, AA: 5.1, Use: Dry Hop for 7 days
    59.5 g - Centennial, Type: Pellet, AA: 9, Use: Dry Hop for 7 days
    14 g - Nelson Sauvin, Type: Pellet, AA: 12.5, Use: Dry Hop for 7 days
    31 g - Simcoe, Type: Pellet, AA: 12, Use: Dry Hop for 7 days

    MASH GUIDELINES:
    1) Temp: 62 C, Time: 60 min, Amount: 13 L
    Starting Mash Thickness: 2.9 L/kg

    YEAST:
    Fermentis / Safale - English Ale Yeast S-04
    Starter: No
    Form: Dry
    Attenuation (avg): 75%
    Flocculation: High
    Optimum Temp: 12.22 - 25 C
    Fermentation Temp: 20 C

    TARGET WATER PROFILE:
    Profile Name: Edinburgh (Scottish Ale, Malty Ale)
    Ca2: 100
    Mg2: 18
    Na: 20
    Cl: 45
    SO4: 105
    HCO3: 235
    Water Notes:


    This recipe has been published online at:
    https://www.brewersfriend.com/homebrew/recipe/view/471345/5am-sinner

    Generated by Brewer's Friend - https://www.brewersfriend.com/
    Date: 2017-03-30 19:22 UTC
    Recipe Last Updated: 2017-03-30 19:22 UTC
     
  2. Mar 30, 2017 #2

    Leon103

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    Why have you dropped the amounts?
     
  3. Mar 30, 2017 #3

    Blinky

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    It just seemed like a lot of crystal malts and I have heard rumors of people thinking some of the recipes were not 100% accurate. For the 20L batch DIY Dog has the following grain bill...

    Extra Pale 2.56kg 5.6lb
    Caramalt 0.88kg 1.9lb
    Munich 0.63kg 1.4lb
    Crystal 150 0.38kg 0.83lb
    Dark Crystal 0.13kg 0.28lb
     
  4. Mar 31, 2017 #4

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    I would roll with it. 5am saint is known for its caramel flavours
     
  5. Mar 31, 2017 #5

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    Same. Others have done the recipe with great success, and it isn't like the sweetness won't be balanced by the hops.
     
  6. Mar 31, 2017 #6

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    I always grin when I see a brewdog hop bill. You are going to be one busy boy during the boil with that lot. If you do it then please let us know how it turns out. I'm rather partial to a bottle of 5am saint myself.
     
  7. Mar 31, 2017 #7

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    OK, I went for it!! Will let everyone know how it turns out. I dropped the medium and dark crystal a teeny bit as I doubt I will get as good extraction of the hop flavours as they do, will also up the additions as well to try and keep up with brewdog!
     
  8. Nov 29, 2017 #8

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    How did this brew turn out? Did you mash at 62°?
     
  9. Nov 30, 2017 #9

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    The first few were good.as expected I did not quite get the level of hoppiness but it was good. It quickly lost the hops though after a few weeks. Would do it again but up the hops next time.
    Mash temp, can't remember but I assume I did mash at 62.
     

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