Bourbon Stout

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  1. Aug 6, 2019 #1

    AMyd666

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    Evening Folks, hope you are all well.

    I'd appreciate advice on the following I've bought, with the plan to make a bourbon stout. Not a strong imperial style either.
    1 can Coopers Stout
    1kg extra dark dme
    500g chocolate malt
    100g ekg
    100g bourbon barrel chips soaked the last 3 weeks in Jim Beam Black.

    Was thinking to steep 250g chocolate malt at 70Celsius for 30 mins, then boil for 15 minutes, adding 25g ekg once the boil starts (for a bit of flavour and aroma). Strain into FV and mix with the Coopers. Two weeks fermentation/ clean up, one week "dry hop" with 50g of bourbon chips, then bottle.

    I'll taste progress over that week on the bourbon flavour side to determine when to remove the bag. Do I strain the bourbon from the chips or just add some? Would the liquor kill of any conditioning yeast for bottling?

    Is this enough ekg to add a subtle hoppiness? Would it clash with the bourbon, oak, vanilla notes I expect from the chips.

    Does the brew need lactose to maybe complement the bourbon flavours, or is it fine without?

    A lot of questions I realise, but I know there's a wealth of experience here to keep me right!
    Thanks in advance acheers.
     
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    First your recipe doesn't seem to match the subsequent text quantities. Perhaps I've missed something.
    Anyway have you brewed a Coopers Stout before? There are two Irish and Original, and both are subtly different. If you haven't, I suggest you at least brew one as it comes to find out what it tastes like before you try additions/modifications.
    Next in the absence of any other comments I wondered why you thought it necessary to use 100g of EKG in your stout? Stouts are mostly about dark malt flavours but do have bitterness as well and this is provided in the can.
    And I would have also thought that 500g of Chocolate Malt is overdoing it. When I make up the Irish Stout to 19 litres (with other stuff) I use 190g Choc Malt as a steep and find that it is enough.
    Cant say anything about bourbon chips, vanilla, or lactose, except I tried lactose years ago and didn't get on with it. Perhap others can help.
    Hope you find this useful.
     
  3. Aug 7, 2019 #3

    AMyd666

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    Hi Terrym

    Thanks for the feedback. The listed quantities is as bought, but not what I planned to use in full. I'll save the leftover hops, malt and chips for another brew. Hopefully that clears up the subsequent brew plan that I wrote.
    I bought Coopers Original Stout. Didn't fancy the drier Irish version (from what I've read, it is drier).
    I was worried that the bourbon may erase any bitterness from the can and thought to provide a bit extra to overcome that. Plus flavour etc as described previously.
    From what I've read ekg is suitable for stouts for bittering/ flavour/ aroma.
    The chocolate malt quantity had me stumped but I do recall a thread in the forum that opted for 250g of said malt in a stout.
    190g sounds good though. I just wish to add more body and flavour.
    Do you cold steep or boil?

    Lactose was just a thought, but I'm wary as I overdid it on last year's imperial stout I did. I digress, but I've got seven bottles left of 11% treacly, oversweet stout. 12 months old now. Will leave for a long time yetasad1
     
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    Both Coopers stouts provide a good base for modification when you know what you are looking for. I prefer the Irish but there isn't much in it tbh. There are two good threads to see what folks do
    https://www.thehomebrewforum.co.uk/threads/coopers-original-stout-review.17817/
    https://www.thehomebrewforum.co.uk/threads/coopers-irish-stout-review.17818/
    My go-to is kit can, kit yeast, 120g dark muscavado sugar, 500g dark DME, 500g Golden syrup, 190g choc malt, 4 shots of strong espresso coffee (not instant), all to about 19 litres .
    And when I use grain without a mash I steep it in hot water at about 70*C for about 30 mins, (although there are occasions where a cold water sparge might be used) filter off the liquid, sparge the spent grain with 70*C water then boil the liquid to sterilise for about 15 mins. You don't boil the grain as it might extract unwanted tannins.
     
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    Afternoon folks. Started this brew. Great fun trying a partial mash for the first time, but decided to boost the abv a wee bit more than planned. (Also burnt the a**e out my nylon bag too grr. Ordered a cotton drawstring bag)
    1 can Coopers stout
    Ikg extra dry spraymalt
    500g pale malt, 500g rolled oats, 250g chocolate malt, 250g crystal malt mashed for 60 mins.
    7g ekg boiled for 20 mins.
    OG = 1060, so will be interesting to see where this ends.
    Pitched can yeast and a muntons gold yeast at 23 Celsius (that's the lowest I can get it in this heat today!)
     
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