Challenger SMaSH

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  1. Aug 22, 2018 #1

    JhnMcK

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    I have finally taken the plunge and moved from kit brewing to all-grain. With it being the Bank Holiday weekend coming up, I've decided to get the first all-grain brew under my belt. I've gone simple in the hope there's less chance to balls it up.

    My "planned" brew:

    Original Gravity (OG): 1.052 (°P): 12.9
    Final Gravity (FG): 1.013 (°P): 3.3
    Alcohol (ABV): 5.11 %
    Colour (SRM): 5.8 (EBC): 11.4
    Bitterness (IBU): 44.3 (Average)

    5kg Maris Otter Malt

    35g Challenger (8.04% Alpha) @ 60 Minutes (Boil)
    40g Challenger (8.04% Alpha) @ 15 Minutes (Boil)


    Single step Infusion at 67°C for 60 Minutes. Boil for 60 Minutes

    Fermented at 20°C with Safale S-04

    What are your thoughts?
     
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  2. Aug 22, 2018 #2

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    Sounds great and very similar to something I made a couple of months ago. Seeing as Challenger was, is, and forever will be the finest hop known to all of humanity, you can't go wrong. Nice to have a change now and again though but I always go back to it in the end, like an adulterer always drops the mistress and returns to the wife.
     
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    I've just started drinking a cascade smash I made with pretty much the same recepie. It's amazing!
     
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    I love challenger hops. Proper Yorkshire bitter style hop
     
  5. Sep 13, 2018 #5

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    Sounds like this might be one that I am going to get on this weekend, can you tell me how it turned out.
     
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    To be fair, BIGD (can we call you "Shirley"?), it matters scarcely one jot how any one single brew turns out. If you are going to do a SMaSH brew, then Challenger is going to be near the top of the list.

    Great bittering and good flavouring. You can do a lot of very good English style beers using just Challenger and Goldings hops.
     
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    This is going in the bottle this weekend. It tasted pretty good in the trial jar. I plan to do it again in the future and see how it compares with a 5 minute hop addition and maybe some more at flameout.

    If I can come up with a good Challenger SMaSH, I plan to buy some plants for the allotment for a continuous supply
     
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    Once you've drained the Smash, you may want to try something like the Cumberland Ale clone I have conditioning. Simple recipe: Malts are MO and a little each of crystal and black. Only one hop... Challenger.
     
  9. Sep 14, 2018 #9

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    Hi Slid, is BigDs real name " SHIRLEY" or am I missing a forum joke. As I have read the posts of the forum member before and believe it to be a male, but might be mistaken.

    I think with some of the questions he asks he may be struggling somewhere in the brewing phase, as they are all to do with AG Matters.
     
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    Big Daddy, British wrestler, 80's fame. Real name Shirley Crabtree?
     
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    Old thread, taste test tonight of my Blue Bird Bitter, all Challenger hops and I have found a new favourite hop.
     
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    I did a challenger smash recently and didn't like it much - it was ok to start with but after longer conditioning became very `grapefruity', a bit like cascade really.
    Much prefered an admiral smash I did earlier, but to be honest you can't beat goldings.
    Just my opinion of course.

    Currently enjoying a goldings pale ale to which I added some prima donna (homegrown) at flameout. Very marmaladey, but there again I do like marmalade.
     
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    Oh, Admiral is my standard bittering hop, how did you find it in late additions? There's a couple of threads about it out there but it seemed a bit hit or miss with folks.
     
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    Well when the brew was quite young I didn't like it at all but after a few weeks conditioning it was really nice. Of course with 40 bottles to work through I might just have gotten used to the taste!
     
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    Yes : I love challenger , it is superb. you will not be disapointed.
    Four of my recent brews have had 50% Challenger, and 50% EKG and have been exceptional in delivering that "English bitter style.
    I am personally wanting to try something else which gives "English" notes but but am open to suggestions based on experience (Bramling cross, Fuggles, Admiral...etc ?)
     
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    Challenger is really nice. I really like Target actually for anything English (late in the boil as well as for bittering)
     
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    Yes Target seems a good proposition, I really want "Traditional / English" notes, but have been looking to get other people's experience of the results - many thanks Hopsteep.
     
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    I love target. Great hop! So versatile
     
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    Target is my go to for bittering never tried it as a late hop. Pilgrim is also another good one. I haven't tried Progress hops yet but I have recently received some, going to make an English bitter Pilgrim as the bittering hop and Progress as the late addition.
     

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