Citra Recipe

[simon04]

I've been struggling to find a Citra recipe to suit my needs, so I've tried to come up with my own. I want something pale as possible, not too strong, and all-grain.

Could anyone look over this recipe for me please?

Citra2 - Specialty Beer (23A)Brewer Nobody
Date 06/16/2013
Batch Size 14.975 L Boil Size 9.000 L
Boil Time 60.000 min Efficiency 70%
OG 1.046 FG 1.013
ABV 4.3% Bitterness 36.1 IBU (Tinseth)
Color 9.4 ebc (Morey)

Brown Sugar, Light Sugar 250.000 g No No 100% 15.7 ebc
Simpsons - Maris Otter Grain 2.500 kg Yes No 81% 5.9 ebc
Briess - Carapils Malt Grain 250.000 g Yes No 73% 2.6 ebc
Hops
Name Alpha Amount Use Time Form IBU
Citra 14.8% 25.000 g Aroma 20.000 min Leaf 0.0
Citra 14.8% 25.000 g Dry Hop 0.000 s Leaf 0.0
Northern Brewer 9.26% 20.000 g Boil 60.000 min Leaf 17.7
Northern Brewer 9.26% 25.000 g Boil 35.000 min Leaf 18.4
Yeast
Name Type Form Amount Stage
WLP013 - London Ale Yeast Ale Liquid 35.000 mL Primary

 

[JKaranka]

I'd replace the brown sugar for 400g of wheat malt (dry, pale, light), drop the 35m addition of Northern Brewer to 15g at 30m, and add another 25g of Citra as a 5m addition. Citra works great as a late addition but I find that if boiled for long it seems to need some time to mellow down, so using NB as a bittering hop makes sense.

 

[simon04]

I'd replace the brown sugar for 400g of wheat malt (dry, pale, light), drop the 35m addition of Northern Brewer to 15g at 30m, and add another 25g of Citra as a 5m addition. Citra works great as a late addition but I find that if boiled for long it seems to need some time to mellow down, so using NB as a bittering hop makes sense.

Thanks for the input. I will enter that into the software soon.... I have plenty of time to think before I brew....

Another idea I had was using the following EPA recipe (which I found on jimsbeerkit.co.uk), , and substituting some of the other hops with Citra....

As it happens, I already have some of this EPA recipe fermenting, so I can see how the original turns out.


SEYMOUR MARSTON'S EPA CLONE

6 US gallons = 5 Imperial Gallons = 22.7 Litres

GRAINBILL:
100% = 7.8 lb = 3.54 kg, English Pale or English Lager Malt, or a blend thereof, the fresher and crisper the better

MASH at 151°F/66°C for 90 minutes

BOIL 60-90 minutes, add a pinch of gypsum to make the hops pop, drop Irish Moss at 15 min remaining.

HOPS:
.88oz = 25 g, Stryian Goldings, 60 minutes
.88oz = 25 g, Cascade, 15 minutes

YEAST:
White Labs WLP026, derived of the historic Marston's strain

STATS (assuming 75% mash efficiency and 77% yeast attenuation):
OG: 1038
FG: 1010
ABV: 3.6%
IBU: 26
COLOUR: 3°SRM/6°EBC

 

[simon04]

I'd replace the brown sugar for 400g of wheat malt (dry, pale, light), drop the 35m addition of Northern Brewer to 15g at 30m, and add another 25g of Citra as a 5m addition. Citra works great as a late addition but I find that if boiled for long it seems to need some time to mellow down, so using NB as a bittering hop makes sense.

Assuming I went with this, it would look like the following. (I believe you meant only add Citra at 5mins and not before?).

I may even brew both the EPA idea and this one;



Citra3 - Specialty Beer (23A)Brewer Nobody
Date 06/16/2013
Batch Size 15.350 L Boil Size 19.000 L
Boil Time 60.000 min Efficiency 70%
OG 1.045 FG 1.013
ABV 4.1% Bitterness 42.1 IBU (Tinseth)
Color 8.5 ebc (Morey) Calories (per 12 oz.) 148
Fermentables
Total grain: 3.150 kgName Type Amount Mashed Late Yield Color
Simpsons - Maris Otter Grain 2.500 kg Yes No 81% 5.9 ebc
Briess - Carapils Malt Grain 250.000 g Yes No 73% 2.6 ebc
White Wheat Malt Grain 400.000 g Yes No 86% 3.9 ebc
Hops
Name Alpha Amount Use Time Form IBU
Citra 14.8% 25.000 g Aroma 5.000 min Leaf 0.0
Citra 14.8% 25.000 g Dry Hop 0.000 s Leaf 0.0
Northern Brewer 9.26% 20.000 g Boil 60.000 min Leaf 26.7
Northern Brewer 9.26% 15.000 g Boil 30.000 min Leaf 15.4
Yeast
Name Type Form Amount Stage
WLP013 - London Ale Yeast Ale Liquid 35.000 mL Primary

 

[joe1002]

I believe he meant add another addition of Citra, not move what you already have, per below:

Northern Brewer 20g 60mins
Northern Brewer 15g 30mins
Citra 25g 20mins
Citra 25g 5mins
Citra 25g Dry hop :thumb:

 

[JKaranka]

Oh, sorry, I wouldn't boil Citra too long... if you do

10m - 25g Citra
5m - 25g Citra
dry hop - 25g Citra

... you'll end up with plenty of it! You could replace the 10m addition for a half an hour steep before cooling the wort. It's a very nice hop but I think it can end up a bit 'bleachy' and harsh if you boil it too long. Late additions add plenty of that mango flavour.

 

[simon04]

Oh, sorry, I wouldn't boil Citra too long... if you do

10m - 25g Citra
5m - 25g Citra
dry hop - 25g Citra

... you'll end up with plenty of it! You could replace the 10m addition for a half an hour steep before cooling the wort. It's a very nice hop but I think it can end up a bit 'bleachy' and harsh if you boil it too long. Late additions add plenty of that mango flavour.

Fantastic, thanks!!

I really like Citra, but I'm not yet experienced at customising recipes. Now I can have a good go at this...

I will update how it goes.

 

[simon04]

Here's what I'm thinking at the moment.... mainly due to having ony 50g Citra, but leftover Cascade.

Does anyone have any thoughts please??


Batch Size 14.961 L Boil Size 17.800 L
Boil Time 60.000 min
OG 1.045 FG
ABV 4.2%
Bitterness 48.4 IBU (Tinseth)


Fermentables

Dry Extract (DME) - Light Dry Extract 1.300 kg
Pale Malt (2 Row) UK Grain 200.000 g
Caramel/Crystal Malt - 30L Grain 250.000 g
Dry Extract (DME) - Amber Dry Extract 300.000 g

Hops

Northern Brewer 9.26% 20.000 g Boil 60.000 min Leaf 27.7
Northern Brewer 9.26% 15.000 g Boil 20.000 min Leaf 12.6
Cascade 7.7% 25.000 g Boil 5.000 min Leaf 5.7
Citra 14.8% 25.000 g Boil 1.000 min Leaf 2.4
Citra 14.8% 25.000 g Dry Hop 0.000 s Leaf 0.0

Misc

Irish Moss Fining Boil 15.000 mL 15.000 min
WLP013 - London Ale Yeast Ale



Note; The final 1min Citra is 20 min steep after flameout
The dry hop Citra is hop tea, added to bottling bucket.

 

[simon04]

Oh, and this is extract, as I won't be ordering grain just yet.

Hopefully I can try out another hop configuration.

 

[Duxuk]

I tried Oakham Ales Citra and found it to be "The best bottled beer I've ever tasted!!!". An ale drinking friend of mine recently confirmed my view. I've done a few brews using various combinations of citra and other hops. If you want to do 15 litres of AG this is what I'd do...........

3kg Maris Otter
250g wheat malt (for the head)
Crushed crystal to taste. 250g would suit me.
Mash at 66C or 68 if you like it a bit sweeter.

Hops

Northern Brewer 15 to 20g for 60 mins
Citra 20g for 15 minutes at which time I also add Irish moss.
Citra at flameout when temp has fallen to 90C 30 to 40g ( I like 40g!)
Dry hop with 20 or so grammes of citra at 10 days.
Leave to ferment for about 14 days, usually.
Nottingham yeast. I buy Gervin GV12 for £1.25. I'm told it is nottingham but at a very good price!

I start with 20 l of water and with BIAB end up with 15l @ 1047 ish.

I'll drink a bottle which I made about 6 weeks ago to remind me of how good it is! I may be gone some time...............

 

[simon04]

Sounds good... I will prob give that one a go, when I've used up all my extract and moved to all-grain on a full time basis.

 

[RobWalker]

how much citra hop punch are you looking for? If you want a lot, american IPA style, go for up to 100g citra on the dry hop.

 

[simon04]

Well, a lot of Citra sounds good.....

I actually only have 50g left right now, for this brew.

But will prob order in bulk next time :-)

 

[pittsy]

Just a note , i see you had some pale ale grain in your recipe for extract (partial extract) brew . You won't get any strength from your grains only colour and a little flavouring so base malts like pale ale are no good to you , you only want to use speciality malts like crystal etc , hope it goes well for you , enjoy . :

 

[Sandimas]

I tried Oakham Ales Citra and found it to be "The best bottled beer I've ever tasted!!!". An ale drinking friend of mine recently confirmed my view.

+1

A new ale house has recently opened up round here and they had Oakham Citra on hand pump: one of the best ales I've ever tasted (and I've tried a lot!).

I'm really keen to brew something like this, I've got BrewUK's single-hop Citra recipe pack ready to go on, once this weather cools down, but am really interested in how the recipes on here turn out.

 

[simon04]

Just a note , i see you had some pale ale grain in your recipe for extract (partial extract) brew . You won't get any strength from your grains only colour and a little flavouring so base malts like pale ale are no good to you , you only want to use speciality malts like crystal etc , hope it goes well for you , enjoy . :

The only reason I added the 200g ale malt was because I had it surplus and wanted rid of it.

Infact, the only reason I done this with extract was to use up the surplus extract also.

I'm gonna move over to all-grain from now on - So next time I make an ingredients order, I will order accordingly, including lots of hops. Hence much deliberation about what to use....

 

[simon04]

Well, just cracked open the first bottle of the Citra-Cascade....

It's a nice drinkable brew, and damn hoppy as you'd imagine. Slight downside is that the Cascade is so prominent that it overpowers the Citra... Nice all the same!

Anyway, that's all them spare ingredients used up, and time to go back to basics.....

I'm going over to all grain for everything now, and I'm gonna use something along the lines of the hop configuration mentioned above (i.e. no Cascade).