How long is long though? As it references Charles Bamforth’s book, who advocates a vigorous 60-90 minute boil, I'd read it as boils that extend into hours. Towards the end of this (45minutes), he talks about transforming LTP proteins in a foam positive way via a vigorous boil.
"My boiloff rate currently hovers around 1 gallon per hour". For a 5.5 gallon batch, that's still a 8% boil off for a 30 boil and a whopping 21% for their 90 minute boil!
. Maybe the much stronger boil achieved all the desired goals by the 30 minute mark. I'd hate to see his gas bill!
Meh. Head retention (and clarity, to be honest) are things that have never seemed that important to me. There are plenty of commercial beers that are hazy, and a lot of English ales (at least in the South) are served without a head. Some of my beers have haze, and in some the head dissipates quickly (most don't). It doesn't bother me as it doesn't affect the flavour, and means I don't need to care about hand washing the glasses as they all just go in the dishwasher. I didn't brew this to prove a point, just to try something different, but I'm also glad that those with an axe to grind feel vindicated.
. I'm also happy that other people get results they like with their own process.
No need to spit the dummy cobber just because someone disagrees with you. You stated that, despite all the empirical evdence to the contrary that boiling with the lid on does not increase DMS in the beer. "The need for an uncovered boil is a myth"Meh. Head retention (and clarity, to be honest) are things that have never seemed that important to me. There are plenty of commercial beers that are hazy, and a lot of English ales (at least in the South) are served without a head. Some of my beers have haze, and in some the head dissipates quickly (most don't). It doesn't bother me as it doesn't affect the flavour, and means I don't need to care about hand washing the glasses as they all just go in the dishwasher. I didn't brew this to prove a point, just to try something different, but I'm also glad that those with an axe to grind feel vindicated.
Anyway, I'm happy with my beers, and I'm happy that you brew beers with the clarity and head that you like
I'll sign back out of this argumentative thread now and let you get back to your trolling.
I was looking forward to your results, thinking you were going to send a sample to a lab to measure the DMS in the brew.
Despite the impossibility, 'Zero DMS as well' How on earth did you arrive at that conclusion?
No I didn't! I wondered whether statements like that has any merit (tis why I used phrasing like "in theory" and quoted those statements), so brewed differently to see if it made any difference to me.
. (Though your head is better)
I agree the standing charges are a big factor and one that isn’t talked about either. Only thing we hear about is the price cap. I use gas for heating and hot water and the standing charge is higher than my usage during the summer months.
I recall reading that Martin Lewis had raised this issue with ofgem. That smartmeters and steps to save energy, such as reducing thermostats by 1°C, are pointless if bills are made of standing charges. On suggestion was scrapping or slashing standing charges after a number of years of having an account with energy providers.
Different kettle of fish here, power lines to houses are above ground, the wires have to go through trees. It is the home owners responsibility to keep the branches away from power lines, but off the property it is the providers responsibility. Fires are often caused through the power lines so they are open to being sued over bush fires if it is proved it was the power lines which caused the fire. I don't know about NZ they don't have bush fires like we do here.
- so I only need to get an extra 20*C to mash (with an Eco7 backup) I have a 5kw PHE to return the heat after the boil. Our system is semi off-grid to protect from our regular power-downs. It now has UPS on the chilling side and will have solar UPS on the solar thermal next. All the heat in the HLT will dump to our domestic hot system as a safety/winter option.
Standing charges are also to compensate big energy companies who took on new customers due to firms collapsing. OFGEM granted the companies the right for US to pay THEM to get costs back. Only the other day British Gas said they made millions more profits due to new customers from failed energy companies. Looks Like the standing charge can be used for profiteering as well.
