when I was in my wine making stage, I decided to make an elderberry wine. I foraged a carrier bag full of rip elderberries, but when I came to make the wine there wasn't enough. I decided to top up the fruit content with Ribena. Anyway, I sort of lost interest in making wine so it's been in the demijohn for about two years (I made sure I kept the airlock topped up). So today, because I needed the airlock for fermenting beer, I bottled it. It tastes lovely, just like port! :grin: It's a pity I haven't a clue about the recipe, because I think it's going to go down well at Xmas. Does wine turn into port if you don't bottle it for ages?