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  1. Oct 12, 2018 at 6:18 AM #1

    Chippy_Tea

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    Is it a coincedence just as EV's are starting to sell in bigger numbers the government decides to cut the grants?



    Motoring groups have condemned the government's decision to cut subsidies for buying greener cars.

    From 9 November, grants for new plug-in hybrids will be scrapped, while discounts on all-electric cars will be cut from £4,500 to £3,500.

    Cash incentives have been offered since 2011 to help promote cleaner cars and meet emissions targets.

    The RAC and AA motoring groups said the change was a backward step, and the SMMT trade body called it "astounding".

    The Department for Transport (DfT) said that the Plug-in Car Grant was introduced seven years ago to help the market become established.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-45831150
     
  2. Oct 12, 2018 at 6:58 AM #2

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  3. Oct 12, 2018 at 7:00 AM #3

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    I thought the government wanted to cut greenhouse gases etc.
     
  4. Oct 12, 2018 at 9:04 AM #4

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    They do but they want you to pay for it, not themselves.
     
  5. Oct 12, 2018 at 12:17 PM #5

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    Nope, they just want to rob everyone under the guise of saving the planet. Now that EVs are gaining in numbers at the expense of diesel / petrol vehicles, they gotta get the revenue back. As for electric cars, I'd sooner have a clockwork kettle.
     
  6. Oct 12, 2018 at 4:09 PM #6

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    Spot on, £21,990 for the entry level Leaf once the grant is applied is not going to persuade many to part with their current car and move to electric even if the leaf is one of the most popular and can now do 235 miles on a single charge.





    The second-generation Nissan Leaf electric car can now be ordered in Britain, with prices starting from £21,990 for the entry-level Visia model.

    That price includes the UK Government's £4500 grant for zero emission vehicles. Also taking the grant into account, the Acenta model costs £24,290 and the N-Connecta model costs £25,990. Top of the range is Tekna, which starts from £27,490 once the grant is applied.

    Available with the new Leaf is a limited-run Zero model, which is priced from £26,490 (including the government grant) and is only available in 1500 units.

    UK reservations opened on 1 January, soon after the order total in Europe surpassed more than 10,000 cars. First UK deliveries are due in February.

    The Leaf is already the world’s best-selling all-electric car, with more than 283,000 units produced for the previous model. But Nissan has heavily reworked the new car to take on increasing competition in the fast-growing electric vehicle sector. The new Leaf is powered by a 147bhp motor – 40bhp more than the previous car – that produces 199lb ft. It can achieve 0-62mph in around eight seconds – just over three seconds faster than the current car.

    In the new Leaf is a floor-mounted 40kWh lithium-ion battery – compared with a choice of 24kWh and 30kWh batteries in the old car – and Nissan says it has a New European Driving Cycle (NEDC) range of 235 miles on a single charge. That’s 80 miles more than the outgoing range-topping 30kWh battery and 111 miles more than the entry-level Leaf.

    https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/new-nissan-leaf-priced-£21990-uk
     
  7. Oct 12, 2018 at 10:00 PM #7

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    I guessing this will push companies to reduce the price. With the grant in place they were able to keep prices higher
     
  8. Oct 13, 2018 at 1:11 AM #8

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    I've yet to see an EV that can tow a caravan so as they say in Dragon's Den "I'm out!"
     
  9. Oct 13, 2018 at 6:09 AM #9

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    Current EV's are not really designed for touring the world and as the OP says Nissan will lend you a petrol or diesel if you need to make long journeys.
     
  10. Oct 13, 2018 at 6:14 AM #10

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    It's a shame you don't have an open mind Gunge, you might actually enjoy driving one.
     
  11. Oct 13, 2018 at 6:43 AM #11

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    I'd rather shave my head with a cheese grater. And I'd rather be seen dead than come across as a tree-hugger and someone who's fallen for the save-the-planet crapola.
     
  12. Oct 13, 2018 at 6:47 AM #12

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    Morning Gunge and BB what you doing up at this hour?
     
  13. Oct 13, 2018 at 7:05 AM #13

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    They may run green but the carbon footprint of making and shipping all the components from their various points of origin is massive... hypocrisy!
     
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    Been on nights. Always makes me grumpy, even more than normal!
     
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    Ye, and how do the suckers think the electricity is produced, by a herd of guinea pigs who's exercise wheel is rigged up to a dynamo or summat?
     
  16. Oct 13, 2018 at 8:26 AM #16

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    Is that possible
     
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    By little hamsters powering a big wheel
     
  18. Oct 13, 2018 at 8:43 AM #18

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    I once saw this programme where a guy in South America had a farm of Guinea Pigs, he used their poop to make methane gas. So I guess that even Guinea Pigs aren't eco-friendly, methane being a greenhouse gas.
     
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    I was. wink...
     

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