I don't smell anything now so I do think it's been nipped in the bud, I looked back to my own posts and on line, I put some nutrient in at start then another as soon as it was smelled, so came home tonight, I couldn't smell anything but she could so put two more in as I stirred and seems fine again, I also do believe leaving airtight was to blame, anyway no smell lid loose and enough nutrient for now so yeast seems very happy now no off smells, it's my baby so luckily reacted in time but it's not over yet, it's got four level tsp for 19 ltr with all fruit in so it's about right for a higher abv as I've read. I'm lucky it's at the side of me and not in another room out of the way, oh and your help John, cheers. Should it get to bottling fine, you deserve a delivery.