- Mar 17, 2013
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- Ulverston Cumbria.
To be sure, on my old (gonebust) supplier's tarriff gas was one fifth of the price of electricity per kWh. I'm pretty sure that's going to change come April and thereafter.
Ouch! I'd never heard of that, John. Although the Scottish system used electric heating elements, like you'd find in an immersion heater or kettle or wall mounted instant hot water heater, rather than induction heating. I'm going to have to get onto my mate who has a bee in his bonnet about electric induction and get some comparison figures. Thank you for the reference.Highland Council installed these Wet electric boiler systems a few years back Victor.
There was utter outrage at the cost of running them,Public meetings were held at which the attending Council officers were given a right roasting.
Over the next few years the council ripped them all out and replaced them with gas boilers.
In my case this amounted to nearly 70% anual heating savings.
You also have to question how environmentally friendly a scrap heap of millions of gas boilers and the mining of the materials needed to produce millions of heat pumps is.Banning gas boilers after a certain date and replacing them with heat pumps is a disaster waiting to happen in my opinion.
They really don't worry about detail like that. Here's wind turbine blades being put into landfill once their life is over. The blades are non-recyclable, made with petrol chemically-produced resin.You also have to question how environmentally friendly a scrap heap of millions of gas boilers and the mining of the materials needed to produce millions of heat pumps is.
If the dogs are outside while barking talk to them.I used to garden for a woman whose neighbour left a large angry sounding/looking dog outside.Everytime I went I used to talk to it and I could see it through the hedge.Eventually it stopped barking each time I went and let me stroke it through the something I wouldn't have attempted a few week previous.I would like a wood burner but the house next door makes our life a near misery with the smell of their smoke when the wind is in the wrong direction (for us) so I am holding fire (ha ha) at the moment.
What I hope will happen is the Government will eventually ban woodburners being used in day light hours at least.
I am sorry, but anyone that doesn't believe we have created this mess for ourselves is in denial.
Do not expect many likes for this post but it is what it is!
Whilst on about next door anyone any ideas how I can shut there dogs up without shooting them, or losing my voice shouting at them?
There is an online series of courses run by Future Learn on global warming/climate change its causes and ways of possibly negating its effects. If you can spare three hours a week well worth the time and effort, just google.
Short answer is cost Chippy - there's been 4 turbines in the Pentland Firth for a few years now with a capacity of 6MW, but they cost over £200/MWh. They've been trying to qualify for subsidies for a much bigger extension, but have consistently been beaten by the falling cost of offshore wind. Now that offshore wind has got to the stage where it no longer needs subsidising, they're hoping to have another go in the new auction - they're talking about £100/MWh, maybe £90/MWh in time - which compares to a bit over £90/MWh for Hinkley Point nuclear, and £40/MWh for the latest offshore wind.We are surrounded by water why not use waves?
The whole point of the 2035 deadline is that nobody needs to be scrapping gas boilers to install heat pumps - the average life of a boiler is 10-15 years, so the heat pump option needs to be compared, not against nothing, but against mining minerals to produce millions of replacement gas boilers.You also have to question how environmentally friendly a scrap heap of millions of gas boilers and the mining of the materials needed to produce millions of heat pumps is.
You really need better sources of information, nobody credible was saying North Sea oil would have us "living like sheikhs". We have about the same amount of North Sea oil as Norway, but with 12x the population. And the thing about nuclear power being too cheap to meter was in relation to nuclear fusion, not nuclear fission.A few examples would be:-
North sea oil will have us all living like the arab Oil Shieks "loaded"
Atomic power would see electric so cheap it would be given away FREE.
With the silicon chip revoulution in the future no-one will need to work more than 1 day a week.
The list is actually far longer and more extensive than this.
We live in far too much of a “throw away” world. As recently as two years ago I had to replace my 24 year old gas boiler and the only reason I had to was because the £2.99 gasket that seals the flue had split but the part had been discontinued. So, I replaced my D rated boiler with a far more efficient A+ Rated one whereby the money I saved on gas would pay for the new boiler in 17 years. Yes, just about the time I will need to scrap it!The whole point of the 2035 deadline is that nobody needs to be scrapping gas boilers to install heat pumps - the average life of a boiler is 10-15 years, so the heat pump option needs to be compared, not against nothing, but against mining minerals to produce millions of replacement gas boilers.
A "great fanfare" is different to "rich as sheikhs". The North Sea made a tremendous difference to UK finances, of the order of £100bn's - but spread among 60 million of us that only amounts to £5k on average.Sorry Northern brewer Unitil recently (19yrs ago) i had a pristine copy of 1970 "Tomorows Wold".
Great fanfare they made about north sea oil and gas.
The government encouraged it ,Now Aberdeen and a few of the chosen few did indeed prosper mightly
Calder Hall opened in 1956, but the "too cheap to meter" quote dates back to a speech in 1954 by Lewis Strauss of the US Atomic Energy Commission. Even at the time people in the industry thought "Nobody took Strauss’ statement very seriously", but it's one of those catchy phrases that persisted.Nope northern brewer I was not refering to fusion
I was infact refering to a 1950s article about Calder Hall a magnox fission reactor.
Nope, the game changer was the fact that fossil fuels stayed cheap and doing nuclear properly was just too expensive in comparison. The US Navy did a study about 10 years ago looking at nuclear power for their warships, and concluded that in purely economic terms it needed an oil price of somewhere between $80 and $240 per barrel (or something like that) to make sense, depending on a ship's annual mileage - nuclear is high upfront costs and relatively low running costs whereas for oil most of the costs are in the fuel and so are proportional to mileage.They even thought cars,homes,plane and ships would be all nuculear in a few years at the time.
What was a game changer was chernoble in the mid 1980s
Add to that the fact many unskilled jobs will soon be done by robots so those at the bottom of the ladder are going to have no hope of getting a job, I believe a store recently opened that has no checkouts this will be the thin end of the wedge.What a horrible prospect.