My interest in home brewing comes primarily from A) a need for a hobby, and B) my love of creating things from scratch in terms of food and drink. So not neccesarily from being a massive beer guy. My question is.... From as unbiased a point of view as you can, how do you guys rate what you make in comparison to their commercial counterparts and what stands out in particular as beating shop-bought hands down? How to kits compare? How does all grain compare? What about wine kits or turbo cider/cider kits? I know this might seem a daft question in the context of being on a brewers forum, but just looking for everyones opinion... If Guiness was a middle of the road 5/10, where does your favourite stout recipe that you slaved over stand?