Just a few items to argue about!

[BeerCat]

The power that be are so busy arguing amongst themselves i am not sure if they give us plebs a thought.

I think they give a lot of thought on how to control and steer us. Sorry off topic though or was it. I cant remember Dutto's point anymore apart from there being 12 steps! :beer6:

 

[Chippy_Tea]

Sorry off topic though or was it.

I don't think there is such a thing as off topic in the snug.

 

[MyQul]

I have just been reading about the charity sector, a big employer of the virtue signalling left.
Brendon Cox to start with, allegations of being a sex pest, including police report and quitting his job as senior exec with Save The Children under a cloud of allegations.
OXFAM staff indulging in poverty stricken prostitutes, some said to be underage, whilst self righteous governors trying to cover it up.
Don't the left have some history with covering up sex abuse when it suits their agenda?
120 staff from Britain's leading charities accused of sexual abuse in the last year alone.
It always strikes me how those most outwardly displaying of virtue, tend to be morally lower than the average once you dig a bit deeper.

If these allegations are proved true I hope they spend a very long time in prison. However, these people arent in charge of the country. The ones that are in charge dont seem to be particularly interested in the vast majority of the people that live here. Just the people with lots of money

 

[Duxuk]

I once was told that if you spend a pound in an Oxfam shop, less than a hapenny goes to good causes. But here is the truth according to the BBC..............http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43031911
Almost half of Oxfam's money comes from the government and other sources. The biggest recipient of foreign aid is Pakistan. That surprises me. Surely Pakistan doesn't have the amount of war and poverty that many other countries have? Maybe it's to stop them coming over here where 6 drive a mini cab with only 1 driving license between them.
As Denis Skinner would put it "some of them are not crooks"

 

[BeerCat]

If these allegations are proved true I hope they spend a very long time in prison.

And they will likely get a promotion.

 

[Dutto]

Surely, just hiring a prostitute shows a lack of personal morals if you are using your own money; and theft if you are putting it down on expenses.

Whichever one of these apply, having decided that paying a vulnerable person for sex is morally repugnant, you then have to consider just how vulnerable was the person being exploited. In the case of the Haiti earthquake in 2010 ...

"It was estimated that some three million people were affected by the quake—nearly one-third of the country’s total population. Of these, over one million were left homeless in the immediate aftermath."​

... and having a home demolished makes anyone just about as vulnerable as a person can get; but let's not forget that some of these ladies may have had a choice!

I remember the Haitian earthquake because we had just returned from the US where we had bought a cheap phone for the holiday. We sent the phone to a US charity (not Oxfam) that was helping the Haitians rebuild their society.

Try this for a rather disturbing read about the situation ...

http://www.spiked-online.com/newsit...-isnt-just-a-few-dirty-men/21113#.WoTIfGaca5w

The title "The problem with Oxfam isn't just a few dirty men." sets the tone of the article.


Ref:
https://www.britannica.com/event/Haiti-earthquake-of-2010

 

[Ajhutch]

When I saw the title I thought this thread was going to about how to restart a stuck fermentation.......

 

[Clint]

That man...allowed to resign..then got another,probably high paid job...doing the same as he did in the other. Won't learn his lesson and will likely do the same...more fools the organisation that gave him the second job. But it rings true in a lot of people in top positions...they're chronic at their job,make a mess of it then move on to pastures new as they are in the "jobs for the boys" network. ..anyone else would get the sack followed by an inquiry of some sort..

 

[Dutto]

I was always worried about a job applicant that came with excellent references from his current employer.

Maybe I have a suspicious nature, but I have also written glowing references for someone I was desperate to get rid of!

I was leaving one job and my three Indian Supervisors asked me for references. For one of them I included phrases like "He often tried to do my job." and even the classic "He will go far in his career and the sooner the better." and he went away glowing with pride! Which showed me that I hadn't been wrong in my estimation of his abilities!

Happy Days!

 

[Clint]

Ya can't kid a kidder!

 

[Pavros]

Point 12 : every single prime minister elected since 1979...
So that covers Conservative and Labour or do you consider Blair a Tory? (OK, that's whole different conversation...)

 

[Dutto]

Point 12 : every single prime minister elected since 1979...
So that covers Conservative and Labour or do you consider Blair a Tory? (OK, that's whole different conversation...)

I can answer this one. He means every Prime Minister (Tory and Labour) because Murdoch jumps on a bandwagon so fast you might even think he cares.

With regard to Tony Blair, I actually bought his "New Labour" message and actually voted for him. My reasoning was simple. A Labour government was much better than a Tory government. To a degree I was right (e.g. the minimum wage) but I think Mr. Blair started to believe the sycophants that surrounded him and within a very short time he shed his Socialism like a snake shedding its skin.

I now feel more sorry than angry because no-one can shed so many of their core beliefs and values and still look with pride at their reflection in a mirror!

On the subject of Murdoch and his media empire:

1. If they should change their mind and start supporting the Labour Party and Mr. Corbyn you can reckon that we will win the next election hands down.
2. If they still attempt to ridicule the Labour Party and demonise Mr. Corbyn you can also reckon that they have been unable to influence anyone in charge; which has to be a reassuring state of affairs for the many if not the few!