Just lost my first brew to infection in 20 years

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  1. Sep 24, 2017 #1

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    I put on two kit brews last week. The golden ale went off like a train and appears to be fine. The stout never really started fermenting and at 4 days, it had developed a slimy surface film that just screamed infection.
    I immediately moved the two buckets apart and after waiting another three days to be sure, I just binned the infected brew.
    Weirdly, the sugar on the bottom of the bucket was a solid mass that I had to dig out but I've now cleaned everything and wiped all the walls down with bleach.
    I don't think it was bad hygiene, instead, I think it was probably just dead yeast and an opportunistic infection.
    Henceforth, I'll be doing with my beers what I do with my ciders and using a starter culture to inoculate the brew with yeast that is already hydrated and active
     
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    Thats a real Shame. Twenty years Though.
    I believe i forgot to Sterilise my fv for my Latest batch Although it was rinsed and sanitised. Fingers Crossed.
    Was ur airlock still active during the Infection?
     
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    Sorry to hear you have lost your first brew to infection, hope it's a one-off. Compared to now I was not so careful about keeping kit clean and sanitised when I started out many years ago but still didn't lose any brews as far as I can remember. I kept my orange plastic dustbin as an FV for years and even though I cleaned it with scratchy pads from time to time even then never succumbed. Nowadays I try to keep everything as it should be but am not overzealous. Nevertheless I believe that in spite of best efforts you can still be unlucky, maybe my luck will run out one day like yours.
    I use dried yeast for all my brews and have tried all three methods available for pitching i.e. sprinkling straight on, hydrating, hydrating followed by a small fermentable feed and if I'm honest can't really tell the difference. So I'm back to sprinkling at present. If the yeast appears to be initially struggling I usually give it a max of 36 hours before I have to decide to repitch. but I have only ever had to do this once as far as I can remember.
     
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    Sorry Ken never mind you have had a good run, never had one myself but it will come one day. Probably something airborne as most people have a good clean sanitise method as I am sure you have with 20 years plus experience so upward and onward to the next brew
     
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    Sorry about your sad loss. My FV's are in a terrible shape with visible scratches but somehow I've gotten away with it for donkey's years. Only a matter of time before I get caught out so I'm gonna splash out and replace the lot. Not a dead loss tho' - I'll use the old ones for grain and equipment storage!
     
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    Gunge,Ive done what you are planning,go on,you know you want to
     

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    That is, sob, beautiful. How much was it? Given me an idea what to request as a crimbo pressie...
     
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    £175 from the Malt Miller
    Early birthday for me from the full family 😉
     
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    Will it go in an under counter fridge?
    Gunge you are such an old softy!
     
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    No airlocks on the buckets. The lid tends to dome and they leak gas around the edge. There was no doming on the infected bucket though.
     
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    It fits in my freezer with lift up lid but not sure about fridge,it should,it's actually quite small
     
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    Nice touch and you don't have to do anything to it....

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    Just thought to ad to this thread for the sprinklers out there. The failed yeast was from a Coopers stout kit so there may be a bunch of Coopers kits out there with dead yeast packets.
    If you're doing one, it might definitely be worth doing a yeast starter with a sanitised Coke bottle and a teaspoon of sugar - I knows a big investment but it's probably worth it...
     
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    I have done quite a number of Coopers kits over the last three years of different types and have only found a dodgy one on a Brew A IPA. You can find out how old the yeast is here
    https://club.coopers.com.au/static/media/attachments/1490244512_3_110.pdf
    I have a Coopers AuPA on the go at present which started well and is still going fine although the date code tells me it's nearly two years old (35615 = 22 Dec 2015).
     

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