Hi everyone, I made a MJ Saison kit last month (first brew), it’s been conditioning in bottle for 3 weeks and have had the odd taste, before bottling, a week in, and after 3 weeks... and it tasted pretty rubbish every time... I’m having trouble describing the flavour according to lists of “off flavours” I’ve found online, either green apple or cloves/medicinal probably describes it best. I’m wondering what might be the most likely cause... My FV is a big 25ish L tub, with a snug fitting lid (allowing co2 to lift lid, no airlock), I used an immersion heater in the bin which kept it at around 23c. Fermentation took around 13 days, I dry hopped according to the recipe for around 5 days (pellets, loose) before bottling. finished at 1.004 sg. I racked direct from the primary, adding sugar to the bottles. Left at room temp for a week, before moving to my basement. A couple of the bottles I’ve tried had hop particles in them. Also... a lot of my gear is my dads from c. 1980... (FV, Heater, siphon). I cleaned everything throughly with soap and water, and then starsan according to the instructions. The off flavours have been the same from initial bottling to today (so don’t think it’s a bottling problem). I realise 3 weeks isn’t long, and I’m pretty much just planning on leaving it for another month before tasting again, but I can’t imagine much is going to change, as it hasn’t improved at all!! Any suggestions as to where I’m going wrong?!