New England Yeast

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    What I've discovered with this kind of thing (bulk/group buys) is that someone need to take the lead. Some one needs to front the money buy the yeast/hops/etc then distribute it to the other members.

    If anyone is considering taking that leads, have no worries about shfting the yeast. A couple of years ago I did some 'hop taster packs' (whereby I bought several different varieties of hops and brock them down into 20g amounts, packaged them, and sent them out to forumites for cost). They all sold quickly and I still had members asking if their were any left weeks after I had sold the lot
     
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    Have you looked into culturing up yeast from NEIPA bottles?
     
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    Never from bottles but from previous brews I have.
    Well 2 cans of Cloudwater prob comes in at £11
    Where we could get 50 grams of yeast for a tenner.
    Just a wee thought
     
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    Good idea actually.
    Is there any chance of infection with dried yeast do you know if split and cryo vacced
     
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    I'd be keen, I don't think I'd be confident of having the facilities to parcel it out in a completely sanitary way though so I'd be a passive partner!
     
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    As AJhutch states, the difficult thing with a brick of yeast would be dividing it up sanitarily
     
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    I've only ever used one bottle when it comes to culturing up from bottles
     
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    I guess il be waiting hopefully they package it in 11G packs.
    Ill drop them an email
     
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    Shame as I'd be interested in this too. Hopefully they'll do it is smaller amounts soon.
     
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    So it’s actually 25g packs as Reg recommend picking rate for this dried yeast is 1g per litre.

    I’ve had two pack delivered a week ago and one pack seal failed in the post. The other i pitched last weekend and it’s fermenting away at the moment. I am mindful of how the re packed yeast will perform. But I’ve gone on the basis that it will be used within 2-3 weeks of when I get it.

    I have recommend to Geterbrewed that they date the packs when they do them. On the thought that there not going to hang around long in their stores.

    I will be following on the beer progress and the final beer in my brew thread.


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    How was the beer? I have just used it for a NEIPA and will keg this weekend. I took a sample from my brew bucket before the second dry hop and it actually tasted a bit “funky!” Not quite what I was expecting! The beer is still a little green though so I’ll see how it pans out!
     
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    So I’ve not had anything funky from this dried yeast yet. So I would keep and eye on that.

    Although I haven’t been that impressed with the repacked dried yeast from geterbrewed. I can only assume there is a good reason why lallemand haven’t released the homebrew version yet.

    I can only assume that the viability is affected by repacking and you really need a high cell count to get the fruity element of the yeast character out. Underpitching mellows out any yeast character and if anything makes it cleaner and drier.


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    What temperature did you ferment at out of interest? Very little information available on the forums about what temperature is Best to get the tropical esters from this yeast. Don’t know if anyone knows how Cloudwater or Verdant use this yeast?
     
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    Because there isn't any temperature advice direct from lallemand I have followed the standard Vermont profile of first two days active fermentation @18oC and then raise to 20oC for the remainder of the fermentation.

    Cloud water use their own Conan strain that they manage themselves. So they don't need to use a dried yeast.

    Verdant, DEYA and Unity all now use the dried Vermont yeast. You'll find that allot of brewery's have started using it in replacement of a US05 or London ale type yeast on existing beers to lift them and add extra dimensions.

    My experiences have told me this yeast isn't as good as the wet Vermont. Yet. But it's getting better and is a great cost effective alternative for the commercial guys. It will be interesting when it becomes viable for the home brewers.




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    Cloudwater use the liquid strain (Wlp4000/Conan) and also the Lallemand New England strain- they say so on their packaging. I was also aware that Verdant and Deya have used the Lallemand yeast. Cloudwater and Beavertown used the Lallemand yeast in their recent DIPA collaboration (says on the tin). Magic Rock have played with Wlp4000, London Ale III and Wlp001 for their NEIPA style beers.
     
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    Can't go wrong with London ale for NEIPA


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    Wild weather ales are now using it too.
     
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    Yeah loads are now as it’s become cost effective for the smaller guys without yeast cultivation kit.


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