New recipe help

[Dellboy78lfc]

I have put a recipe together and was hoping to run it past the homebrew forum before brewing it. Hopefully the link here should work. What do you think?

Pazy Hale Ale - JD
Brewfather

 

[An Ankoù]

Wow, that's hoppy!!! Why the oats (which'll alter the mouthfeel and possibly damage the head retention). Why the major part of a chemistry set in the water at various stages?
Apart from that, I don't know the style so no further comment. Sorry.

 

[Dellboy78lfc]

Wow, that's hoppy!!! Why the oats (which'll alter the mouthfeel and possibly damage the head retention). Why the major part of a chemistry set in the water at various stages?
Apart from that, I don't know the style so no further comment. Sorry.

I sort of borrowed the grain bill from another (successful!) brew of a Verdant Light Bulb clone I did a little while ago, slightly different pale malt this time because I got given some that I wanted to use.
I’ve been wanting to make a real hoppy hazy pale ale for a while so yes lots of hops in this one!
The chemistry set is thanks to Brewfathers water addition calculator to adjust my Ashbeck bottled water to a Hoppy NEIPA profile!

The yeast selection is one I’ve not used before so I don’t know what that will bring to the party yet.

 

[the baron]

Recipe will not open up for me?

 

[An Ankoù]

Good luck, Dellboy.

 

[Dellboy78lfc]

Recipe will not open up for me?

This might work....

 

[the baron]

IMO unless you know exactly what you are doing with the water additions I would not bother as you have quite a large sum of money in the hops to spoil the beer if you are not 100% sure of the additions.
Also IMO you do not need to use that many hops I have just done a Punk Dog IPA copy with 160 g of hops, however the hop mix is good I just think that some people are going overboard with hops thinking more is always better which it is not.
Some brewers are putting that many hops in it is killing their taste buds so they go on the Holy Grail of putting more in and more to compensate for this and hence the hop bill will become mega expensive its your money and your choice but I think that amount of hops is way too much especially if you have not been brewing long and listen to the serious hopheads.
You can produce a nice hoppy beer without using that many hops but as I say again its your choice but be aware you will kill your taste buds in the long term

 

[the baron]

Hi Delboy I have just noticed the Brewhouse Efficiency is set at 80%, this could affect you FG etc as it seems a little ambitious for most brewers I usually get around 70 to 74% however some people get higher but only 1 or 2 as a general rule so expect to be down a few points Good Luck

 

[Dellboy78lfc]

Hi Delboy I have just noticed the Brewhouse Efficiency is set at 80%, this could affect you FG etc as it seems a little ambitious for most brewers I usually get around 70 to 74% however some people get higher but only 1 or 2 as a general rule so expect to be down a few points Good Luck

Hi,
Yes, I upped the efficiency a little bit because my last couple of brews I’ve been way over on my gravity readings so thought I’d change it to see what difference it made.

I am just playing about with my hop additions as there was an awful lot of hops in the original recipe! I will re-post the recipe in a while. Thanks for taking the time to comment.

 

[An Ankoù]

Also IMO you do not need to use that many hops I have just done a Punk Dog IPA copy with 160 g of hops, however the hop mix is good I just think that some people are going overboard with hops thinking more is always better which it is not.

I, too, have just done a Punk IPA (20L) which if I scale it up to your volume uses just a tad over 200 g hops. As I say, I don't know the style, but as The Baron says, there's a point where the taste buds are saturated and you're just wasting your hops. I would have thought Brewdog would have got to that point, they're as mad as a box of frogs.

 

[the baron]

No problem delboy do not forget my opinion is my opinion and the serious hopheads will tell you more is good. You must have over £30 in that brew with hops and grains and as I said it is the thin edge of the wedge once you start with those amounts, my Punk IPA is good with 160 in it. The hops you are using are good for a hoppy beer.
The oats will help with the haze but the amount of hops will do this anyway

 

[Dellboy78lfc]

I totally get what you guys are saying. I’d rather put less in this time and up it next time if I think I need to. I’ve had a play around...Does this look more realistic?

 

[the baron]

Yes it does to me I have noticed you have used the magnum for bittering to save the hops for flavour. I would do equal amounts of hops say on the aroma 20 or30g each and the dry hop say 50g each that way you will have @ 240g of hops apart from the Magnum. It has also dropped your IBU's down as well. It certainly looks better to me and the 77% EFF is better also so you can adjust up or down next time.
Let us know how it turns out. Just remember a better balanced beer is better than just chucking large amounts of hops at it IMO

 

[Dellboy78lfc]

Well as an update to this thread, I brewed this a few weeks ago....I think this is the best beer I’ve ever brewed. It’s delicious! I really couldn’t be happier right now.